2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[MrGrumpy]

Benitez is taking the mick out the club. He playing pointless stupid football, annoying our better players and WTH is going on with DCL.. 4 weeks..4 more weeks…he still 4 weeks off

 

[DanEFC92]

….i recall being regularly told it was only the injuries holding us back, we have a very decent team when everybody is fit. There’ll always be one or two injuries and/or suspensions, the best managers cope.

I’m genuinely surprised at how poorly the team is being managed. We played a Palace team coming off the back of 3 defeats, yet the clear tactics was to allow them possession, consolidate and not concede; No press, instead forwards drop into their own half. No tempo.

Everton have won more points from a losing position than any other team in the PL. it’s a major stat as it shows we are poorly set-up and organised at the start of games. There is no getting away from that. We are more effective when we go behind & have to play more positively.

Only a very stubborn man would continue down a path that doesn’t work. This team/squad is better than most in the league, we are poorly coached.

It's one of the worst in the league.

 

[spectateur]

I've been a blue for over 50 years, seen some glorious times, seen some horrendous ones.
Even with6a couple of near-misses I've never really being concerned that we could be relegated.
Well the last 12 months has changed that. Downward spiral under 2 managers.
the players are over paid and woefully under performing. Easy money no hassle.
I fear that we'll be relegated this time under Sr B.and unless big changes are made it'll be a long time before we get back. Can't see us doing the yo yo thing like WBA, Norwich and the like. More like Sunderland and Bolton imo
.need a complete clear out at goodison.

 

[Nymzee]

I’ve never seen Everton be good and even I know this is bad.

 

[John from Bootle]

I think the difference is they probably appoint someone and take on board what they say rather than paying them a huge Salary to make the tea.

You think? You could be right, but I'm wondering what mental cases are letting these people make decisions on signing players when they employ Klopp and Guardiola?

Put yourself in the shoes of an owner. You're paying Pep Guardioala, arguably the best football manager in the world, a small fortune to manage your club. Why would you have a director of football deciding what players to buy?

I'm not arguing that executive, scouting and infrastructure don't need oversight, but It's just my opinion that the traditional DoF role - as in the DoF signs the players, the manager picks the team - is outdated now.

No Director of anything will last for more than 3 seasons without a good manager(s) now anyway. There's too much spotlight and scrutiny. It won't bring the stability it was intended to create as a model.

These are just my opinions of course.

 

[nsno-chris]

Benitez here and staying the season:

you 0 - El Senor 38

Dave, you've lost. Your head now resides in my log cabin, above my fireplace.

HOO

RAH

HOO

RAH

 

[Runub]

I've been a blue for over 50 years, seen some glorious times, seen some horrendous ones.
Even with6a couple of near-misses I've never really being concerned that we could be relegated.
Well the last 12 months has changed that. Downward spiral under 2 managers.
the players are over paid and woefully under performing. Easy money no hassle.
I fear that we'll be relegated this time under Sr B.and unless big changes are made it'll be a long time before we get back. Can't see us doing the yo yo thing like WBA, Norwich and the like. More like Sunderland and Bolton imo
.need a complete clear out at goodison.

Yep...If we go we will be gone for a while. No easy way back. If we stay up it will be a close call and your complete clear out comment remains valid even if we do stay up

 

[jamieni]

You think? You could be right, but I'm wondering what mental cases are letting these people make decisions on signing players when they employ Klopp and Guardiola?

Put yourself in the shoes of an owner. You're paying Pep Guardioala, arguably the best football manager in the world, a small fortune to manage your club. Why would you have a director of football deciding what players to buy?

I'm not arguing that executive, scouting and infrastructure don't need oversight, but It's just my opinion that the traditional DoF role - as in the DoF signs the players, the manager picks the team - is outdated now.

No Director of anything will last for more than 3 seasons without a good manager(s) now anyway. There's too much spotlight and scrutiny. It won't bring the stability it was intended to create as a model.

These are just my opinions of course.

I’m pretty sure Pep will have a massive say on who City sign. But they can pretty much be guaranteed to get their number one targets. In many clubs I imagine the DoF draws up a list of options and they agree with the manager who they want to sign.

It doesn’t work if, like it seems happens at Everton, the DoF is completely ignored by the owner and manager.

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

Michael Ball spot on in the Echo. He’s setting the team up to fail. They’re no world beaters but they’re beaten before they go on the pitch. Not trying to win games, cowardly. They’re [Poor language removed] but can do better than set up against Palace like they were playing prime Barca.

He’s making big decisions but seems to be an assumption that big decisions equal good decisions.

 

[jazzy]

He can’t last another two defeats. Lose to Chelsea & Leicester and he’s gone.

On any rational view that must be right but I worry that Moshiri is balls deep into Benitez now.

 

[MrGrumpy]

You think? You could be right, but I'm wondering what mental cases are letting these people make decisions on signing players when they employ Klopp and Guardiola?

Put yourself in the shoes of an owner. You're paying Pep Guardioala, arguably the best football manager in the world, a small fortune to manage your club. Why would you have a director of football deciding what players to buy?

I'm not arguing that executive, scouting and infrastructure don't need oversight, but It's just my opinion that the traditional DoF role - as in the DoF signs the players, the manager picks the team - is outdated now.

No Director of anything will last for more than 3 seasons without a good manager(s) now anyway. There's too much spotlight and scrutiny. It won't bring the stability it was intended to create as a model.

These are just my opinions of course.

Doesn’t work like that
Pep.. I need an attacker with x,y,z
DOF.. these players fit x,y,z
Pep.. okay I like y
DOF… okay I go get him

 

[Alan0401]

As if some people are defending him on here calling him a better manager than the fans.

Imagine you applied that logic to the players. Iwobi is basically Pele compared to this entire forum. He still sucks relative to his actual competition of professional footballers.

Much the same as Benitez and his managerial counterparts.

 

[toffeeblue9]

You think? You could be right, but I'm wondering what mental cases are letting these people make decisions on signing players when they employ Klopp and Guardiola?

Put yourself in the shoes of an owner. You're paying Pep Guardioala, arguably the best football manager in the world, a small fortune to manage your club. Why would you have a director of football deciding what players to buy?

I'm not arguing that executive, scouting and infrastructure don't need oversight, but It's just my opinion that the traditional DoF role - as in the DoF signs the players, the manager picks the team - is outdated now.

No Director of anything will last for more than 3 seasons without a good manager(s) now anyway. There's too much spotlight and scrutiny. It won't bring the stability it was intended to create as a model.

These are just my opinions of course.

Of course Klopp and Guardiola input into it, but their job is to coach the first team - if it were left up to them they would buy players who would improve the first team right now, because they are ultimately judged on results

The role of a DoF is to protect the future of the club too and look to make sure that players who are signed will have future value and not be dead money after two years etc

Also, a head coach shouldn't have enough time to be an expert in the transfer market - they should be consumed with the first team and not have enough time to oversee hundreds of scouting reports etc

The point is, in modern football, the job (if done properly) is too big for any one person

A good director of football almost goes unnoticed - Beguiristain was there long before Pep, Michael Edwards has been an enormous success at Liverpool, etc etc

 

[diggerdestroyer]

FPL managers look at Everton as a team to target now...depressing af that

I made the mistake of chancing 2 everton defenders in my ff team for the palace game. Never again?

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

If you no longer wish to support this club, then that's your own decision. I was never going to give a kopite scumbag, who insulted and belittled this proud and great club a fair chance. I guess both you and Benitez can go and do one.

You're a poor excuse for a human being.

Ignored, long overdue.