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2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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Zatara said:
@Theoneandonly

You only signed up to say Everton should appoint Benitez.

Im not sure why you use terms such as "us" and "we".

No one cares if youre an Evertonian or not.



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[HEADING=3]Theoneandonly​

Player Valuation: £8m​


He's got 15 months left. His contract was for 18 months.

From what I understand the 12m is for the 18 months, so 8m per year. He was on 6m at Newcastle.

He hardly relegated Newcastle, he only had 9 matches to save them and they only lost twice in those matches. Steve McClaren relegated them



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[HEADING=3]Theoneandonly​

Player Valuation: £8m​


Carragher was on the verge of being sold when Rafael got there, he was tried as a right back, midfielder and many other positions. Rafael moved him in the middle and he became one of the best centre backs in the league. Gerrard was utilised as a deep holding midfielder and a right midfielder until Rafael got there and turned him in to the best attacking midfielder in the league.

His signings at Liverpool include Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Sissoko, Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia, Zenden, Crouch, Bellamy, Kuyt, Aurelio, Mascherano, Torres, Benayoun, Lucas, Meireles. He also transformed their academy and brought in Sterling, Suso, Wisdom, Flanagan, Ayala, Coady, Spearing. Was partly responsible for bringing in Suarez and Coutinho too.

His time at Inter was a failure, but he asked for investment in order to overhaul the ageing squad, which was denied and look at them now. What have they achieved since?

He was a success at Chelsea, no matter how you look at it. Took them from 7th to 3rd. Won the Europa League. Turned David Luiz and Mata in to 50m players. Was actually going to take over in the Summer before, but the champions league win brought Di Matteo some more time. Rafael left on good terms with Roman and the players.

His time at Napoli was a huge success. Won the League Cup, haven't won it since. Won their charity shield for the first time in 14 years, haven't won it since. Got to the semi finals of the Europa league. Haven't got as far in Europe since. Finished 3rd and 5th in the league, which is about average for them. The Owner wanted him to stay and offered him a 3 year deal, but Rafael was homesick.

Signed Mertens, Callejon, Albiol, Higuain, De Guzman, Gabbiadini, Jorginho, Zapata, Reina, Koulibali, Ghoulam at Napoli. A team which set them up for years.

His time at Madrid was average. He wasn't allowed to sign any players apart from Casemeiro due to the amount spent the previous few years. He wanted to get rid of players, but wasn't allowed. Got told which players he had to play and had interference in all his operations. Unbeaten in the Champions League, 3rd in the league with a game in hand when he left.

His time at Newcastle can't be considered less than a success, he's worshiped up there
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All off Google mate ?
 
If you support this man then you aren't looking our for the welfare of the club. I'm sorry I have to say this, but that's how I feel and it makes me pretty sad how we got here. There is zero evidence this can ever work, and no one truly believes it will.

The club is falling apart and we are doing nothing to stop it. Every day that passes makes me more upset and disillusioned about the mess we are in. We are going to get relegated unless major changes happen. Probably not this season, but it is coming and is inevitable. You can only survive for so long when you consistently make abysmal decisions.

The manager is incompetent, stubborn, confrontational, under-performing enormously, and is not, and never will be, an Everton manager. The owner needs to come out and explain exactly why he was happy to humiliate us all.
 


Azza said:
So just a reminder.


This time last season after 16 games we were;

4th | 9 wins | 2 draws | 5 loses | 26 goals for | 20 goals against


This season after 16 games we are;

14th | 5 wins | 3 draws | 8 loses | 20 goals for | 28 goals against




"wah wah but we've had injuries"


Guess what for the first 16 games of last season these 'starting' players all missed games.

Pickford - 2 games bench
Godfrey - 1 game injured, 1 game bench
Holgate - 7 games injured, 2 games bench
Mina - 2 games bench
DIgne - 1 suspension, 7 games injured
Coleman - 7 games injured
Allan - 4 games injured
Richarlison - 3 games suspension, 1 game injured


You remember that period when Ancelotti ended up playing Godfrey and Holgate as full backs or we went to a back three. He adapted, they worked on shape and positioning and the team still got results despite missing key players. They were not shipping goals nearly every time the opposition attacking or conceded from every 5th set piece against them.


So all you mini Balagues can stop with the excuses, the guy is past it, washed up, a fraud.
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What you mean mate, you mean to tell me the argument that we are 3 points off 10th which is where we finished last season is a ludicrous argument? And we should be comparing this time last year to now?

AND you're also telling me that we didn't have all those players at the same time and had injuries?

That's absolutely scandalous, I thought we were comparing December to where we finished because in some mental universe this is how we are meant to create a rational argument.

Its funny, I genuinely didn't want to believe that we have agendas, but its like people have forgotten what happened this time last year, with injuries.

mental.
 

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