2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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Hope we stick with him - the constant hiring snd firing of managers is s huge part of the current mess the clubs in.

Give him the January and summer window to at least try get a team put together which can actually play the way he wants too.
Worst case scenario is after that a new guy comes in with at least a more coherent team and with a lot of the baggage gone from prior managers.

Who knows we may by the have a team.suited to a system rather than one like now put together by about four managers with completely different player types.

We sack him this season then sure as certain the next manager will be in the same squad mess very soon but without the experience and drive/ego to be able to push his will onto things enough to make the neccesary changes which I believe Benetez is doing now and will continue doing.
We need stability, but there's no use in sticking with a manager, if he's the wrong fit for the role. I'd rather another manager do the rebuilding. That other manager should also be able to rebuild, without playing crap football and driving our best players out of the club.;)
 
Comparing the current manager, to the late great Howard Kendall in late 1983. A ridiculous comparison, which shows that you are living in cloud cuckoo land.:)

It was the situation, i was on about as well. As i said earlier a ridiculous comparison.
You were not on about the situation you lunatic read it again you said I was comparing him to Howard Kendal himself so stop telling lies and go to bed you fantasist.
 

You were not on about the situation you lunatic read it again you said I was comparing him to Howard Kendal himself so stop telling lies and go to bed you fantasist.
Comparing the current situation to late 1983, is very flawed and blinkered logic on your part. The current squad are hardly going to win an FA Cup league title and european trophy, in the next 18 months for a start!
 
Comparing the current situation to late 1983, is very flawed and blinkered logic on your part. The current squad are hardly going to win an FA Cup league title and european trophy, in the next 18 months for a start!
Exactly, we are needing a mass root and branch clearance/rebuilding and for the fans and owners to be patient as they were back then.
We won't even win the toss with this lot, I'm not for a minute saying Benitez is the answer but he deserves until the end of the season so we can take stock taking into account the January window.
We can do without bedwetting talk of relegation from you because that is not going to happen by a long stretch.
As for flawed and blinkered it was you that suggested Chris Wilder more than once as our manager, really? Where is the logic behind that one.
 
Exactly, we are needing a mass root and branch clearance/rebuilding and for the fans and owners to be patient as they were back then.
We won't even win the toss with this lot, I'm not for a minute saying Benitez is the answer but he deserves until the end of the season so we can take stock taking into account the January window.
We can do without bedwetting talk of relegation from you because that is not going to happen by a long stretch.
As for flawed and blinkered it was you that suggested Chris Wilder more than once as our manager, really? Where is the logic behind that one.
But we need to rebuild with a more modern progressive manager. Benitez was in my opinion appointed, just to keep us above water until the new ground is built.
 
But we need to rebuild with a more modern progressive manager. Benitez was in my opinion appointed, just to keep us above water until the new ground is built.
Probably, since none of the previous managers apart from Carlo were capable of doing that and he buggered off at the first opportunity.
If that is why he has been appointed then let him get on with it because the previous mismanagement have not left us with a pot to piss in.
Bearing in mind your previous suggestions who do you think we should appoint after we have given Benitez a massive payout and put ourselves further in debt?
 
Probably, since none of the previous managers apart from Carlo were capable of doing that and he buggered off at the first opportunity.
If that is why he has been appointed then let him get on with it because the previous mismanagement have not left us with a pot to piss in.
Bearing in mind your previous suggestions who do you think we should appoint after we have given Benitez a massive payout and put ourselves further in debt?
I'll worry about that when it becomes an issue. Let's just hope and pray, that Moshiri will leave someone else make that decision.
 

Hope we stick with him - the constant hiring snd firing of managers is s huge part of the current mess the clubs in.

Give him the January and summer window to at least try get a team put together which can actually play the way he wants too.
Worst case scenario is after that a new guy comes in with at least a more coherent team and with a lot of the baggage gone from prior managers.

Who knows we may by the have a team.suited to a system rather than one like now put together by about four managers with completely different player types.

We sack him this season then sure as certain the next manager will be in the same squad mess very soon but without the experience and drive/ego to be able to push his will onto things enough to make the neccesary changes which I believe Benetez is doing now and will continue doing.
I'm with you on the issue with the revolving door of managers, mate. It has been a recipe for disaster.

The problem with Benitez is not really the Kopite connection, it is that he is a creature from a bygone era.

If, for example, we had managed to get Klopp to come here in the summer there would have been some reservations about his appointment but if he had us playing his attacking, pressing approach that is a feature of the top clubs in the modern game, then I have no doubt that we would have felt better about the direction that we would have been travelling in.

Benitez's approach was not consistent enough during his pomp. It is most certainly a liability now as has been evidenced not by results but by performances, and consistently so.

The evidence also suggests that Benitez is a man who is supremely confident in his ways and believes his vision is above all others. This when considered with the evidence of performances is alarming stuff.

We do need a clear strategy now and to stick with it. If it is that we need a manager for the long term then we need a manager who can compete with and 'adapt' to the realities of the modern game. Sadly for us, all of the evidence screams that this will not be Benitez and so we will need to start over again sooner or later.

Our biggest hope has to be that Moshiri/Usmanov have learnt from this latest debacle.

Everton that!
 
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Comparing the current manager, to the late great Howard Kendall in late 1983. A ridiculous comparison, which shows that you are living in cloud cuckoo land.:)
I don’t think it is when you look at the part of the example the poster is highlighting.. Howard Kendall would of never given the club the success it had if the same SKY Sports brigade now within the fanbase back then as he would of been sacked, well before that infamous Coventry game.. and that’s a fact...

These fans that don’t want Benitez.. why aren’t you giving him the same time and money you afforded.. Martinez.. Silva or Koeman, if Benitez is sacked after five months he would probably be a record as quickest Everton manager sacked in a very long time.. why not just treat him same as previous ones before turning on him because as most of you say.. it has nothing to do with him being an ex red manager just footballing principles on the pitch you don’t agree with.
 

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