2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[BlueToff]

@Toffe3m4n you are aware Benitez tells lies?

 

[toffeeblue9]

Who is holding Benitez to account?

1 win since September.

I can't believe I'm about to type this, but that doesn't make Dave's point wrong, does it?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Ilm not even arsed about the cup this season. We have bigger priorities than that.

I'll be happy if we progress but Ild rather lose this and beat Norwich.

The most important thing at a football club is always the next game. I don't feel like that's been the case in recent years. It's been manager's fixated with self preservation, or stadium distractions.

We need to re-focus as a club. Next game is always what counts.

 

[Papa Shango]

We could win both.

Of course we could.

So we may as well be "arsed" about winning both.

 

[Egil Olsen]

So now the same question to you


Did this attitude problem develop in the last 6 months or did we have an attitude problem last year?

If we had it last year and we were performing much better then than we are now then do you really think it's solely down to player attitudes?

No, most likely over several years. That is obviously not the only factor.

Another factor is that Benitez inherits a team that is among the least trained in the PL, especially after Ancelotti's regime. Basically the only thing they can do is defend themselves within the penalty area, make a long pass up to DCL, get a corner, and maybe score. Fortunately, Gray and AT have been good signings. Gordon was loaned out last season. Luckily we have someone who trained a little last season.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I can't believe I'm about to type this, but that doesn't make Dave's point wrong, does it?

It depends what the owner's standards are. Previous managers were sacked for this level of performance. Benitez is still in charge so presumably the owner's standards are now much lower and he has less ambition. If this is now the level of the owner's expectations then there is a huge gulf between him and the wider club.

 

[Death]

Whats happened in the presser

 

[Toffe3m4n]

@Toffe3m4n you are aware Benitez tells lies?

I.. don't know? I mean who's really to say? We can only really go off what the manager says, as we always have done, otherwise why do the media even bother asking them questions ?‍

 

[zukai12_]

Ilm not even arsed about the cup this season. We have bigger priorities than that.

I'll be happy if we progress but Ild rather lose this and beat Norwich.

Bigger Priorities being the relegation scrap this manager has dragged us into?

 

[davek]

Course you aren't.

What if we lose both?

And yes, we could - and should - win both.

Then we keep an eye on the relegation and continue on.

I've said before: if we fall into those relegation places he goes.

Outside of that Im prepared to let it ride.

We could finish 4th from bottom like we did under Moyes and I wouldn't (as then) call for the manager's head. I'd see it as a season where we necessarily had to transform on and on off the field.

This bust up between players and management has been coming and it needs a blood letting and decisive win for the manager to get back to stablity.

 

[Cow kecks]

At last what we've been calling for is happening: the utter cowards in that dressing room being held to account for their unprofessionalism, but because it's Benitez doing it the people who want him out have suddenly conveniently 'forgotten' that demand.

We have a strong manager here. If the owner remains committed to him then we can rout the piss taking culture at this club...playing staff have walked away from Everton with £10M-£20M in their pockets for producing f.a. on the pitch.

All power to a man who wants that to end on his watch.

So have a lot of managers and it will be exactly the same for this one.

 

[davek]

Bigger Priorities being the relegation scrap this manager has dragged us into?

...getting up the league.

 

[Harryflashman]

Imagine being excited because we might beat Hull & Norwich . Let the good times roll , this bloke has transformed us that’s for sure .It’s a minimum Expectation we win both and we need to .

Anyone hoping he loses I’m afraid that’s not an option we’re running out of winnable games we need them league wins and points on the board asap . I think its a big ask but the next few games we need wins if he’ll have done what nobody’s done in most of our lifetimes and I’ll always remember whose responsibility it is and who cheered it on . Fingers crossed the new players help and we start putting this relegation issue and the season in the rear view .

 

[BlueToff]

I can't believe I'm about to type this, but that doesn't make Dave's point wrong, does it?

Well no, but yes a bit.

People bang on all the time about the players being held to account, or not being.

But the person employed to do that is the manager and the manager's job is to set the players up, motivate them and improve them by coaching them.

Everton fans act like that none of those things are on the manager and that they're all on the players?

 

[BlueToff]

Then we keep an eye on the relegation and continue on.

I've said before: if we fall into those relegation places he goes.

Outside of that Im prepared to let it ride.

We could finish 4th from bottom like we did under Moyes and I wouldn't (as then) call for the manager's head. I'd see it as a season where we necessarily had to transform on and on off the field.

This bust up between players and management has been coming and it needs a blood letting and decisive win for the manager to get back to stablity.

Benitez and stability do not go. He has not been stable at a club in 15 years.