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If you don't want to eat it, don't then. You are given fair warning, more often than not. I'm not trying to impose my unarsed belief upon you, I just don't understand the objection, is all. I'm not trying to make you eat halal if you don't want to nor would I want to make you if you objected as strongly as you do, but these sort of things will inevitably upset some people because they feel they are bing overlooked.

Fair enough, but earlier you said halal only meat should be served in schools. There wouldn't be a choice there, would there?

Wembley stadium, for example, only serves halal meat. Again, no choice there. Same for Twickenham I believe.

However, my issue isn't it being served, it's more the lack of transparency and even choice. People deserve to know what they are eating, halal or not.
 
I was pointing out your views don't represent every brit, nor what you read about sharia law represents every muslim? Oh well.

Sharia law is fundamental to islam. Absolutely fundamental. Most accept that we don't have it here but if they had their way it'd be in in a heart beat. If you look at birth rates and who's leaving and coming into the country, it paints a picture for the future.
 
Fair enough, but earlier you said halal only meat should be served in schools. There wouldn't be a choice there, would there?

Wembley stadium, for example, only serves halal meat. Again, no choice there. Same for Twickenham I believe.

However, my issue isn't it being served, it's more the lack of transparency and even choice. People deserve to know what they are eating, halal or not.

That's part of a wider argument I think. Food labelling is a bloody disgrace. The food industry is a ****ing murky business.
 

Sharia law is fundamental to islam. Absolutely fundamental. Most accept that we don't have it here but if they had their way it'd be in in a heart beat. If you look at birth rates and who's leaving and coming into the country, it paints a picture for the future.

The demographics argument has been widely debunked. Immigrant birthrates nearly always stabilise to that of the host population within a generation or two. Most Muslims don't want to live under Saudi-style sharia, either.
 
Sharia law is fundamental to islam. Absolutely fundamental. Most accept that we don't have it here but if they had their way it'd be in in a heart beat. If you look at birth rates and who's leaving and coming into the country, it paints a picture for the future.

:huh: I'll leave it there.... You can do my work for me.
 
The demographics argument has been widely debunked. Immigrant birthrates nearly always stabilise to that of the host population within a generation or two. Most Muslims don't want to live under Saudi-style sharia, either.

We've never had a situation like this before in this country. Fully expect 20% of the population to be foreign by 20-30 years time. Fully expect the percentage of muslims born in this country or otherwise to be of a similar number.
 
We've never had a situation like this before in this country. Fully expect 20% of the population to be foreign by 20-30 years time. Fully expect the percentage of muslims born in this country or otherwise to be of a similar number.

Simple answer mate, if you don't like my country then leave it.

Thanks.
 

Sharia law is fundamental to islam. Absolutely fundamental. Most accept that we don't have it here but if they had their way it'd be in in a heart beat. If you look at birth rates and who's leaving and coming into the country, it paints a picture for the future.

You may or may not have followed events in Egypt and Turkey, but one of the arguments used against the Muslim Brotherhood and Erdogan is they are proposing the 'Islamisation' of those countries. The response has been mass protests, by Muslims, so that Sharia Law is not imposed.

Same as most Muslims in this country they do not want Sharia law 'in a heart beat', but accept the law of this land.

At present there are 2.75 million Muslims in this country, hardly the basis for an alarmist 'picture for the future'.
 
If it goes the way I'm thinking it will then I absolutely will be. Civil war nailed on. There's a LOT of anger about. Me having a flounce on GOT is nothing compared to what's really going down, on both sides.

Honestly mate I can't see that, certainly not in our lifetime.... we have better guns anyway.
 
We've never had a situation like this before in this country. Fully expect 20% of the population to be foreign by 20-30 years time. Fully expect the percentage of muslims born in this country or otherwise to be of a similar number.

I disagree, shall I bookmark for 30 years time? And we can revisit the discussion?
 

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