Ramiro Funes Mori

sageyefc · February 3, 2016

BlueToff said:
I say it every time that I really like Mori, and think he's great.

But I also state that he is really sloppy at times, and that's true. He was by no means bad tonight, but he made more mistakes than, for example, Stones did against Swansea. But he won't get anywhere near the level of criticism.

Now, I don't want to see him get that criticism, just asking people to not be so quick to jump the gun on Stones as well.

BlueToff · February 3, 2016

Kev The Rat said:
If we aren't conceding as many with stones out the side then he has to stay out. Simple.

Mori could have cost us two goals tonight had Newcastle being able to finish.

Even if Stones had made the same mistakes, with the same outcome (no goals), he would have been hammered for them and peopel would be saying he's had a poor game.

One of the best we've had at this club in 25 years. Fact.

Jags..class · February 3, 2016

For me jags is first choice and let stones and mori fight it out for the second place like Lennon and del should.

BlueToff · February 3, 2016

sageyefc said:

You'd have been one of the first to slate Stones had he made the two mistakes Mori had tonight. You'd have been saying he'd had a terrible game. Just suggesting parity...

Mori is a good player. I don't think he's as good as Stones but I had no issue with Mori starting tonight. I'd have no real issue if Mori started on Saturday either. Just asking for a bit of consistency.

sageyefc · February 3, 2016

BlueToff said:
You'd have been one of the first to slate Stones had he made the two mistakes Mori had tonight. You'd have been saying he'd had a terrible game. Just suggesting parity...

Mori is a good player. I don't think he's as good as Stones but I had no issue with Mori starting tonight. I'd have no real issue if Mori started on Saturday either. Just asking for a bit of consistency.

As defenders Mori > stones, as ball players stones > mori. We need defender at the mo

BlueToff · February 3, 2016

atrottel said:
Without diverting this into a conversation about Stones, I think the difference is that Funes Mori's mistakes come when he is trying to defend, which is what his purpose in the team is.

I see what you mean mate but he (Mori) gave the ball away 3 or 4 times coming out of defence tonight mate.

We've also conceded the same amount of goals this season from him playing it out of the back (1 - away at WBA) as we have with Stones (1 - home to Swansea).

I really like him. Think he's been great for us and I don't think he had a bad game tonight, but people should at least be fair with their criticism.

BlueToff · February 3, 2016

sageyefc said:
As defenders Mori > stones, as ball players stones > mori. We need defender at the mo

Fair enough mate

Walken · February 3, 2016

BlueToff said:
You'd have been one of the first to slate Stones had he made the two mistakes Mori had tonight. You'd have been saying he'd had a terrible game. Just suggesting parity...

Mori is a good player. I don't think he's as good as Stones but I had no issue with Mori starting tonight. I'd have no real issue if Mori started on Saturday either. Just asking for a bit of consistency.

spot on, some objectivity needed from our fans, mainly the fat older ones, the dinosaurs, ie the park end

Stephenlloyd · February 3, 2016

BlueToff said:
Mori could have cost us two goals tonight had Newcastle being able to finish.

Even if Stones had made the same mistakes, with the same outcome (no goals), he would have been hammered for them and peopel would be saying he's had a poor game.

One of the best we've had at this club in 25 years. Fact.

I'm not convinced with Mori, may sound a bit harsh, I know he's only been here 6 months.
He's comfortable in possession and when he's bringing the ball out, he's competitive good in the air. Even though mitrovic won a few headers when he came on.

But I just think he made some weak clearances tonight, which could have put us in trouble. He seem to get his position or body shape wrong, and it looks like sometimes he's using the wrong foot

oldblue · February 3, 2016

definitely looked nervous again tonight but think we are just going to have to get used to him and Stones being up and down for awhile. Nearly all our best centre halves took time to settle. In fact I can't think of one that looked the part straight away and definitely not one as young as Stones and as new to the prem as Mori.

sageyefc · February 3, 2016

Stephenlloyd said:
I'm not convinced with Mori, may sound a bit harsh, I know he's only been here 6 months.
He's comfortable in possession and when he's bringing the ball out, he's competitive good in the air. Even though mitrovic won a few headers when he came on.

But I just think he made some weak clearances tonight, which could have put us in trouble. He seem to get his position or body shape wrong, and it looks like sometimes he's using the wrong foot

Statistically been our 3rd best player this season

BlueToff · February 3, 2016

Stephenlloyd said:
I'm not convinced with Mori, may sound a bit harsh, I know he's only been here 6 months.
He's comfortable in possession and when he's bringing the ball out, he's competitive good in the air. Even though mitrovic won a few headers when he came on.

But I just think he made some weak clearances tonight, which could have put us in trouble. He seem to get his position or body shape wrong, and it looks like sometimes he's using the wrong foot

I'd say he is confident in possession but is liable to more mistakes on the ball than Stones. He's got a good leap on him but sometimes his positional sense lets him down.

Think he's a very capable player and I'm glad we've got him, but if it came down to a choice between him or Stones then i'd go Stones every day.

BlueToff · February 3, 2016

sageyefc said:
Statistically been our 3rd best player this season

Stats would show Mark Noble is the third best player in the league supposedly mate.

He isn't though.

sageyefc · February 3, 2016

BlueToff said:
Stats would show Mark Noble is the third best player in the league supposedly mate.

He isn't though.

Nobles been fantastic this year and i hate the beut

BlueToff · February 3, 2016

oldblue said:
definitely looked nervous again tonight but think we are just going to have to get used to him and Stones being up and down for awhile. Nearly all our best centre halves took time to settle. In fact I can't think of one that looked the part straight away and definitely not one as young as Stones and as new to the prem as Mori.

Think Mori just tends to have a shaky 15/20 minutes that he makes all of his mistakes in. Usually they come at the start of the game and he has a really good one from then on in.

Today, bar that missed clearance in the first half, he had his shaky spell from around 60-75 when Newcastle got their chances.