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Referees v Everton

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Saint Domingo said:
If we go down I’d love to see the club sue the PGMOL. We’d almost certainly lose but it would be good to see a lot of their internal evidence come to light and at the very least drain those scum bags for legal fees.
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I mean we can also do it if we don't go down - some of those decisions are absolutely suspect anyway, regardless of our PL status or not.

If anything, having our status makes a potential case a bit more high profile at least.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Agree, I don’t mind pundits saying what they think (although I’m past bored of watching Carragher and Neville just playing for clicks by throwing out ridiculous mocking banter, they’re not a patch on some of the older pundits back in the day)

Commentators though should be impartial. If you listen to any match from before about 2000 the tone of the commentary is almost reverential to both teams. Lots of talking up their proud histories, fanbases, local stories etc.

Now you just get Carragher spitting his way through most Everton games pushing whatever senseless agenda suits him to either pressure a manager like he did with Mourinho and Solksjaer, or create narratives about players for referees (Gordon and Richarlison now the worse and only divers in the league)

Commentary has seeped into punditry which has seeped into mainstream media which is seeping into actions on the pitch which is all being underpinned by tv money backed up by betting. It’s become a disgrace and most people I know who can still be bothered to pay for BT or Sky actually turn the volume off and don’t watch the build up.
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Yeah spot on. It's like everybody has to be a bit of a "bantz" merchant these days too.

Commentators shouldn't have an opinion, they are there to call the game. The analyst can do that (even then I don't like it).

It seemed to kick off this way when Lawrenson was the analyst on the BBC in the past. Sounding like he was bored to be there, "witty comments" etc. Horrible stuff. Jonathan Pearce is the worst though, his international commentary is horrific almost to the point of insulting most of the time.

Give me the dulcet tones of Brian Moore being broadcasted through a telephone line in the Eastern Bloc any day.

Modern football is rubbish.

Actually modern life is rubbish.
 
DualityNSNO said:
I mean we can also do it if we don't go down - some of those decisions are absolutely suspect anyway, regardless of our PL status or not.

If anything, having our status makes a potential case a bit more high profile at least.
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It would sound a lot like sour grapes if the worst was to happen, which I don't believe will happen.
That said, Everton just cannot shrug it's shoulders when we retain our Premier status, and a compilation of blunders must be gathered. These 'blunders' are being made far too frequently by supposed professional officials and cannot be allowed to become just a bad memory.
I loathe the expression, but 'lessons must be learnt'.
 
Papa Shango said:
Yeah spot on. It's like everybody has to be a bit of a "bantz" merchant these days too.

Commentators shouldn't have an opinion, they are there to call the game. The analyst can do that (even then I don't like it).

It seemed to kick off this way when Lawrenson was the analyst on the BBC in the past. Sounding like he was bored to be there, "witty comments" etc. Horrible stuff. Jonathan Pearce is the worst though, his international commentary is horrific almost to the point of insulting most of the time.

Give me the dulcet tones of Brian Moore being broadcasted through a telephone line in the Eastern Bloc any day.

Modern football is rubbish.

Actually modern life is rubbish.
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AMEN!
 

blulouie said:
This is one Bent official
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Just watched a video with the richarlison shirt pull against Brentford. Basically if the ref thinks a challenge is OK then VAR won't look at it even if everyone else can see its a foul and he should look at the monitor to make sure. VAR is a waste of time if they are not allowed to tell the ref he is wrong and he needs to look at the monitor.
 
wandyr79 said:
Ah, initially a tussle. So by that logic, if 2 players are tussling and then one headbutts the other one, it is fine and play should continue as it was only initially a tussle.

Slow motion or real time, his shirt was nearly ripped off of him. I agree sometimes that a picture can distort the opinion negatively (see the Allen red card for that evidence) and sometimes a slow motion can actually make something look more aggressive (i.e. a clash of heads can seem more dramatic and dangerous in slow motion) but when the pictures are moving, here, it is quite clear that it is a foul.
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Are you allowed to tussel? Yes
Are allowed to pull shirts? No
Penalty
 
Everton442 said:
Just watched a video with the richarlison shirt pull against Brentford. Basically if the ref thinks a challenge is OK then VAR won't look at it even if everyone else can see its a foul and he should look at the monitor to make sure. VAR is a waste of time if they are not allowed to tell the ref he is wrong and he needs to look at the monitor.
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There have been plenty of occasions where VAR have said to the ref " think you may have missed this " "take a look on the monitor"
It happened West ham v City at the weekend.
 


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