Relegation 2022/23

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We're essentially averaging a point a game at the mo. The next 9 are critical, we will know what we will have to do after that - job of work now is to attack those 8 and particularly the pre word cup games and get a foothold and a foundation toward the second half of the season. Target home wins and away draws, anything else a bonus. We need to keep continuity now, in the next while teams around us are going to start sacking managers. Sit on your hands Farhad.
 
It's going to be a grind but I don't think relegation should be a real fear at this point.

11 goals conceded in 10 games shows a really solid base. 8 goals scored in 10 games is a worry but clean sheets will win points.

Looking back over the last 20 years of the PL only 1 team has conceded 50 goals or less and been relegated (Birmingham conceded 50 in 2005/06). There's a few other teams who conceded mid-50's and got relegated.

Things would need to fall off a cliff defensively for this current incarnation of Everton to concede 50+ goals this season. If it's less than <50 goals then you are looking at an anomaly for a team to get relegated in PL modern era (0 out of 60 and I stopped looking at 2002/03).

It won't be a pretty watch and there'll be a fair few to nil defeats but if you are solid at the back there will also be a fair amount of low scoring draws or narrow 1-0 or 2-1 wins. Certainly enough to get over the mid 30 point mark needed to avoid relegation
 
Be really surprised if Maupay gets anywhere near 8-10 goals.

I agree, at the moment I dont think we are set up for him, we made ourselves more solid in the middle of the park, but there is no creativity through there, we are very reliant on crosses and yes Maupay can win 2nd balls, but hes not going to beat many CB's in the air. Also when DCL starts what do we do with Maupay? try and play 532, or move him wide in a 433, I think the latter would be better.

At the moment I am not panicking. But think we need 6 points from the next 4 games to get back on track and keep ourselves in the mid table pack.

Newcastle Away
Palace Home
Fulham Away
Leicester Home
 
I agree, at the moment I dont think we are set up for him, we made ourselves more solid in the middle of the park, but there is no creativity through there, we are very reliant on crosses and yes Maupay can win 2nd balls, but hes not going to beat many CB's in the air. Also when Dominic Calvert-Lewin starts what do we do with Maupay? try and play 532, or move him wide in a 433, I think the latter would be better.

At the moment I am not panicking. But think we need 6 points from the next 4 games to get back on track and keep ourselves in the mid table pack.

Newcastle Away
Palace Home
Fulham Away
Leicester Home
Six is probably the bare minimum. Three draws and a win would be reasonable. Two wins and two defeats would not be a shock given the nature of our predicament (and allowing for up and down progress). Anything less suggests a huge struggle. I suppose we could stomach five points from those games - a win, a loss, two draws - but I'd draw the line there. Four draws or one win, one draw, and two defeats would be underwhelming. Put simply, if we are struggling for a decent points return - five or six - from these four games, Lampard could be in serious jeopardy come the World Cup. And that would give idle minds some dangerous thoughts to ponder...
 

It's going to be a grind but I don't think relegation should be a real fear at this point.

11 goals conceded in 10 games shows a really solid base. 8 goals scored in 10 games is a worry but clean sheets will win points.

Looking back over the last 20 years of the PL only 1 team has conceded 50 goals or less and been relegated (Birmingham conceded 50 in 2005/06). There's a few other teams who conceded mid-50's and got relegated.

Things would need to fall off a cliff defensively for this current incarnation of Everton to concede 50+ goals this season. If it's less than <50 goals then you are looking at an anomaly for a team to get relegated in PL modern era (0 out of 60 and I stopped looking at 2002/03).

It won't be a pretty watch and there'll be a fair few to nil defeats but if you are solid at the back there will also be a fair amount of low scoring draws or narrow 1-0 or 2-1 wins. Certainly enough to get over the mid 30 point mark needed to avoid relegation
Didn’t George graham win a title by get lots of 1s to nil….
 
We're essentially averaging a point a game at the mo. The next 9 are critical, we will know what we will have to do after that - job of work now is to attack those 8 and particularly the pre word cup games and get a foothold and a foundation toward the second half of the season. Target home wins and away draws, anything else a bonus. We need to keep continuity now, in the next while teams around us are going to start sacking managers. Sit on your hands Farhad.

Our argument is, that we started the season with 0 strikers, and have had disproportionately harder fixtures. If we are 1 ppg by the world cup, that would be worrying. If we can be maybe 18/19 points through 16 games, that gives us some wriggle room.
 
It's going to be a grind but I don't think relegation should be a real fear at this point.

11 goals conceded in 10 games shows a really solid base. 8 goals scored in 10 games is a worry but clean sheets will win points.

Looking back over the last 20 years of the PL only 1 team has conceded 50 goals or less and been relegated (Birmingham conceded 50 in 2005/06). There's a few other teams who conceded mid-50's and got relegated.

Things would need to fall off a cliff defensively for this current incarnation of Everton to concede 50+ goals this season. If it's less than <50 goals then you are looking at an anomaly for a team to get relegated in PL modern era (0 out of 60 and I stopped looking at 2002/03).

It won't be a pretty watch and there'll be a fair few to nil defeats but if you are solid at the back there will also be a fair amount of low scoring draws or narrow 1-0 or 2-1 wins. Certainly enough to get over the mid 30 point mark needed to avoid relegation
We’re certainly looking less brittle than previous years which is great, but I’m not sure the defensive side has improved so much that we can stay up by virtue of being rock solid. Not conceding 4 and 5 is a definite step in the right direction and is not to be sniffed at, but we’re still not exactly impenetrable, 2 clean sheets in 10 games isn’t the sort of record that sees you comfortable if you don’t score many at the other end.
 

Everton will not be in a relegation fight, let's not make the same mistake the fans made last season, we need to support the team, we need to support the players, we need to support the manager, no excuses this time.
COYB

What mistake? The fans chasing out the fat pig that relegated Newcastle and not allowing the owner to appoint Vitor Pereira is what saved us last season. The fans are this club.
 
Our argument is, that we started the season with 0 strikers, and have had disproportionately harder fixtures. If we are 1 ppg by the world cup, that would be worrying. If we can be maybe 18/19 points through 16 games, that gives us some wriggle room.

Weve a real run of defining fixtures coming up mate, Palace, Fulham, Leicester, Bourmouth, Wolves.

Like it or not we’re in that slipstream of teams and are competing against those teams, in our league in a league. Where we finish overall in that league and vice versa will not wholly but partly be defined in these run of games, we need a stong points total from them.

My concern at the mo, is if I’m one of those teams and I’m looking at us, I’m packing it out to spoil and keep it solid, knowing we’re struggling for goals, were we can see the weakness other clubs are going to set up, to exploit that.

Let’s see mind.
 
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