Relegation 2022/23

[Walham Green Blue]

This team just doesnt turn up at away games and win. They are easily intimidated by away crowds, by the biased refereee, they wilt against any physical teams, they have zero character. And we expect them to go to a possible bear pit ( ive never been to leicester though) away and win?!

That’s why Everton got a draw with us recently. We’re Shi’ite and so is our crowd. That was really a missed opportunity for you…

 

[GrandOldTeam]

If we'd have beaten Fulham on Saturday or even drawn with them, it obviously wouldn't have been enough for us and those remaining fixtures would still be the tough ones you outline. Does that mean we'd have finished on 30 points + a couple more?

If we get a result against Palace or Newcastle and Leicester fail to get up off the floor with a win in their next two, that sees us with a good advantage to take into the last 5 games.

The run in always throws up surprise results against the grain. I doint think anyone can call this relegation fight against Everton...especially since the only team I think can possible revive and shove us into the drop zone in their place is 2 points behind us. That's an adavntage wll worth having. Let's see how Smith and Leicester do with the expectancy of a win against Wolves - if they dont get that they'll be bricking it.

On Saturday Dyche set us up appallingly in an effort to minimize the loss of 2 of the starting central midfielders. I dont think we'll see that error again. That in and of itself will sort out a lot of our issues from the last two games.

All considered - I think that defeat yesterday was as damaging as any in years. It floored me, more so than any result I can remember.

I think it was our most 'winnable' game left this season. A Fulham side at Goodison - who we always beat at Goodison (none covid), on the back of 5 straight defeats without Mitrovic or a manager on the sideline.

It was a massive game for us - 3 points yesterday would have took us to 30, as good as 4 clear of Nottingham Forest's when you factor GD and 5 of Leicester. It give us 1 match day grace, which would have been massive when there's 7 to go.

I don't think we can underestimate the impact of that result - and the performance.

Prior Fulham, if someone give me £1m and said I had to bet it on the 3 who went down, I wouldn't have included Everton.

Now I would. Southampton, Nottingham Forest and Everton.

 

[Gilbert..]

which at this time of the season, where we are, most certainly relegation form.

Yep. I think it was just the logging onto an Everton forum and reading that another team is appalling and we'll finish above them.
Its no consolation that Forest are just as dreadful as Everton.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I'm thinking Leicester stay up - wondered if their fans were pessimistic.

Seems not - Leicester fans seem pretty confident they'll stay up. Skim through this thread.

 

[JohnRoss23]

I'm thinking Leicester stay up - wondered if their fans were pessimistic.

Seems not - Leicester fans seem pretty confident they'll stay up. Skim through this thread.

Leicester’s next 3 fixtures….

Wolves
Leeds
Everton

They very well could win 2 of those… in fact, I’m going to say they will.

 

[davek]

All considered - I think that defeat yesterday was as damaging as any in years. It floored me, more so than any result I can remember.

I think it was our most 'winnable' game left this season. A Fulham side at Goodison - who we always beat at Goodison (none covid), on the back of 5 straight defeats without Mitrovic or a manager on the sideline.

It was a massive game for us - 3 points yesterday would have took us to 30, as good as 4 clear of Nottingham Forest's when you factor GD and 5 of Leicester. It give us 1 match day grace, which would have been massive when there's 7 to go.

I don't think we can underestimate the impact of that result - and the performance.

Prior Fulham, if someone give me £1m and said I had to bet it on the 3 who went down, I wouldn't have included Everton.

Now I would. Southampton, Nottingham Forest and Everton.

Yes, I felt the same about the loss and said so. I said after it happened that it was like after the Burnley game last season. But on reflection it's not.

The situation would have been rosy had we beat Fulham (by the way since they came back up in 2018 we only beat them once and they beat us twice, so it's not really a slam dunk fixture for us), but all three at the bottom lost badly and hopefully Leeds do tonight.

The performance was, as you say, the major disappointment. We all know why we underperformed with players out and the manager getting clever when we really needed to respect Fulham and play conservatively. That can be remedied though. If we sort ourselves out we're more capable than Leicester of winning 3 of the last 7 games.

The pressure is massively on Leicester this weekend. If they dont beat Wolves the major doubts will set in there. And as said already: I'd rather be two points up than be 2 points behind with them coming to Goodison. By the way: we've beaten them at their place last two matches there.

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

Calvert Lewin in the stands will be a big lift

 

[Villa_Fan]

He's sunk £700mill of his own money and building a stadium. We're one foot into the Championship.

Any options to make a chunk of that money back he'll take imo

What is happening with the money for GP. I assume that when u move to the new stadium that GP will be sold. Is the land value high? How much will EFC get for GP

 

[davek]

I'm thinking Leicester stay up - wondered if their fans were pessimistic.

Seems not - Leicester fans seem pretty confident they'll stay up. Skim through this thread.

Having just quickly read through those pages it's pretty much a mix of optimists and pessimists. Bit like on here before the Fulham game.

Let's see what happens to this lot if Wolves comes and goes and they get no win. They wont find Leeds at Elland Road easy and they've lost to us last two matches at their ground.

I watched them against City and apart from that goal they pulled back they looked terrible...because they are terrible.

 

[ah11984]

Having just quickly read through those pages it's pretty much a mix of optimists and pessimists. Bit like on here before the Fulham game.

Let's see what happens to this lot if Wolves comes and goes and they get no win. They wont find Leeds at Elland Road easy and they've lost to us last two matches at their ground.

I watched them against City and apart from that goal they pulled back they looked terrible...because they are terrible.

It was Man City. Away. They showed enough in that last 20 mins to give their fans a lot of optimism. And a blind man could see they have far, far better attacking options than us, if Smith can introduce any semblance of organisation into them, they will win games.

 

[Chegsy]

All considered - I think that defeat yesterday was as damaging as any in years. It floored me, more so than any result I can remember.

I think it was our most 'winnable' game left this season. A Fulham side at Goodison - who we always beat at Goodison (none covid), on the back of 5 straight defeats without Mitrovic or a manager on the sideline.

It was a massive game for us - 3 points yesterday would have took us to 30, as good as 4 clear of Nottingham Forest's when you factor GD and 5 of Leicester. It give us 1 match day grace, which would have been massive when there's 7 to go.

I don't think we can underestimate the impact of that result - and the performance.

Prior Fulham, if someone give me £1m and said I had to bet it on the 3 who went down, I wouldn't have included Everton.

Now I would. Southampton, Nottingham Forest and Everton.

Agree with all of this and said it in the lead up. We needed a bigger cushion going into the Leicester game. Put the pressure on them. I fully expect Forest to go down given their fixtures. 5 points ahead of Leicester and 3 ahead of forest with a superior goal difference would have been a massive boost going into these last 7 games. The result was gut wrenching. Swept aside by a promoted team who had lost their last 5 can not be dressed up any other way than a catastrophic result. The team didn’t step up at all and that’s a massive worry given the games coming up.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Yes, I felt the same about the loss and said so. I said after it happened that it was like after the Burnley game last season. But on reflection it's not.

The situation would have been rosy had we beat Fulham (by the way since they came back up in 2018 we only beat them once and they beat us twice, so it's not really a slam dunk fixture for us), but all three at the bottom lost badly and hopefully Leeds do tonight.

The performance was, as you say, the major disappointment. We all know why we underperformed with players out and the manager getting clever when we really needed to respect Fulham and play conservatively. That can be remedied though. If we sort ourselves out we're more capable than Leicester of winning 3 of the last 7 games.

The pressure is massively on Leicester this weekend. If they dont beat Wolves the major doubts will set in there. And as said already: I'd rather be two points up than be 2 points behind with them coming to Goodison. By the way: we've beaten them at their place last two matches there.

This is what I meant - Covid season aside...

Fancied us to beat them.

The manner of the defeat, and consequence of it will prove significant IMO.

Prove me wrong Everton, but I think we're favourite for the drop.

 

[hallamblue]

All considered - I think that defeat yesterday was as damaging as any in years. It floored me, more so than any result I can remember.

I think it was our most 'winnable' game left this season. A Fulham side at Goodison - who we always beat at Goodison (none covid), on the back of 5 straight defeats without Mitrovic or a manager on the sideline.

It was a massive game for us - 3 points yesterday would have took us to 30, as good as 4 clear of Nottingham Forest's when you factor GD and 5 of Leicester. It give us 1 match day grace, which would have been massive when there's 7 to go.

I don't think we can underestimate the impact of that result - and the performance.

Prior Fulham, if someone give me £1m and said I had to bet it on the 3 who went down, I wouldn't have included Everton.

Now I would. Southampton, Nottingham Forest and Everton.

I would agree with you, but we've lost loads of games against terrible teams over the last few years and somehow we're still in the top division. This may well be the year our luck runs out but I'm not sure either way.

 

[davek]

This is what I meant - Covid season aside...

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Fancied us to beat them.

The manner of the defeat, and consequence of it will prove significant IMO.

Prove me wrong Everton, but I think we're favourite for the drop.

Last decade won 5 home matches v Fulham and lost 2

Right now it feels like we're favourites to go rather than Leicester. But for me that's down to the missing players in the last two games. Get them back and we become tough to beat again.

We're still a couple of points ahead of them and the form table says it all given that this includes our last 2 defeats and 2 draws...

 

[hallamblue]

Don't forget we also lost to Southampton at home and only drew with Forest. We're a strange team.