Relegation 2022/23

[Exeter_Gently]

Keane starting Saturday is catastrophic. All am gona say.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Benjamin Godfrey at left back I'd imagine. Gonna get rinsed if they play Traore.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

No, they're not in the PL.

The rules don't mirror each other in this respect then? Thanks for clearing that one.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

What on earth does someone who supports Bristol City do to find themselves in an Everton forum?

I see you joined two days after our PL charge.

#plant

Nope..I am genuinely interested in FFP and a true believer in FFP and this case is a landmark. I also had some arguments with Everton fans on Twitter who were adamant in 20222 that your club couldn't be charged as the PL had signed off.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

go away and bum some sheep in your fake town you tedious vulture

Wrong side of the bridge Boyo!

 

[Nymzee]

The rules don't mirror each other in this respect then? Thanks for clearing that one.

Why would FFP rules mirror anything happening in the EFL? You’re welcome.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

If Everton stay up this season how can Burnley bring a claim against us for last season and whoever finishes 3rd bottom bring a claim against us for this season as well.
If for example Burnley are justified in their claim that we would have gone down instead of them last year had we not breached FFP, that means they are saying they should have taken our place in the premier league this season. If that is deemed a valid claim how then can whoever finishes 3rd bottom this year demonstrate they would have stayed up but for Everton.
Forest or Leeds for example would have to be able to successfully argue that had Burnley stayed up instead of Everton they would have been relegated. How can they prove Burnley would not have finished 4th bottom and one of those teams would have gone down anyway

Well tell that to Wycombe. They went straight for the sue when they finished 1 point off 4th bottom Derby and Derby were found guilty. I suppose Everton finished 16th which makes it trickier but then Middlesbrough also argued that had Derby been restricted in 2018-19 they could have spent less on players and as such would not have finished 6th.

Clivil claims are on Balance of Probability so it would be an interesting case.

The counter factual is that if Burnley had been able to overspend to the same level would they have survived. Mind you they could have spent more anyway as they were miles and miles ahead of FFP loss limits.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Why would FFP rules mirror anything happening in the EFL? You’re welcome.

They do on one level, the 3 year rule but the loss limit differs. I was thinking more of do clubs have the right to sue each under PL Arbitration as they do in the EFL under EFL Arbitration. If not then it's a non starter.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Where do you sit down in deepest darkest Brizzle mate? Do you know mad fat Jack the two pies at half time man? Sits in the Ateyo stand, likes a natch or three. Can't miss him, always buys two pies at half time and the size of a barn.

Anyway, Happy with how your season has gone?

Atyeo now an away stand. I know an Everton fan who works at AG though, goes to Goodison quite often.

Do believe Everton have done enough to stay up. The coupon buster at Brighton the turning point. Perhaps appointing Dyche the turning point. Ours is okay thanks, improving, steady, more youth and navigating FFP. Pearson appears to have steadied the ship.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Question is who do they sue?

Everton have been working with the PL as reported, therefore it could be the PL who are sued if they have been non-compliant.
The investigation is to whitewash the status quo.

Clubs can not sue other clubs for breaking FFP rules, it’s the governing body who dish out any punishment.

That makes sense tbh although the Investigation is surely legitimate? PL for failings is a fairly good answer tbh

 

[brieverton]

Well tell that to Wycombe. They went straight for the sue when they finished 1 point off 4th bottom Derby and Derby were found guilty. I suppose Everton finished 16th which makes it trickier but then Middlesbrough also argued that had Derby been restricted in 2018-19 they could have spent less on players and as such would not have finished 6th.

Clivil claims are on Balance of Probability so it would be an interesting case.

The counter factual is that if Burnley had been able to overspend to the same level would they have survived. Mind you they could have spent more anyway as they were miles and miles ahead of FFP loss limits.

We get all sorts on here and some very decent people who support other clubs.

There are others who aren't very good at disguising their intentions and get flushed.

You're working very hard to dress up what seems to me to be a certain glee at Everton's predicament as "interest" in FFP.

Why you'd come and put so much effort into this is frankly beyond me, but have you been rumbled, so be aware of that at least.

The devils advocate / friendly concern act started to wear thin a few weeks back.

 

[Curtis]

We have so many pointless players such as Keane, Holgate and Godfrey potentially mykolenko I'll give more time to refine his game that are so limited in what they can do such as play defensively but they can't even perform the responsibilities they're are supposed be capable of. It's just absurd we have defenders who are devoid of any modicum of offensive or passing ability yet are atrocious at defending , at least Hibbert could defend but if we survive relegation with so many dregs i will perceive it as a miraculous event

 

[Nymzee]

They do on one level, the 3 year rule but the loss limit differs. I was thinking more of do clubs have the right to sue each under PL Arbitration as they do in the EFL under EFL Arbitration. If not then it's a non starter.

You’re the massive FFP fan, why don’t you know this stuff?

 

[cantlivewithem]

Well tell that to Wycombe. They went straight for the sue when they finished 1 point off 4th bottom Derby and Derby were found guilty. I suppose Everton finished 16th which makes it trickier but then Middlesbrough also argued that had Derby been restricted in 2018-19 they could have spent less on players and as such would not have finished 6th.

Clivil claims are on Balance of Probability so it would be an interesting case.

The counter factual is that if Burnley had been able to overspend to the same level would they have survived. Mind you they could have spent more anyway as they were miles and miles ahead of FFP loss limits.

It is difficult to prove that by spending money your situation would necessarily improve. We have gotten worse by spending money

 

[charlie atkins]

Could do with Brighton win or draw tonight keep Newcastle on their toes for Leicester