Relegation 2022/23

[liamefc91]

I think thats us done.

 

[blue to the bone]

How many times have we got relegated today ?

 

[Drico]

Because the bulk of our wins come from our home games. In your world why should we have beaten Arsenal who are a demonstrably better side than Brentford?

We may arse it up but home I feel more confident than away.

We have four wins at home all season. Let's not get carried away. Of course we are more likely to win at home than away - that's the case for most sides - but the reality is we are not likely to win at all. Full stop. Each game is worth three points and we cannot go around throwing points away on the road and expect to dig ourselves out at home when we have been beaten seven times in our own stadium this season. Next week we face a side that beat us in just as huge a game at home last season. I admire your confidence. I just don't share it. This side does not earn the confidence of its supporters.

 

[COYBL25]

I've just made an interesting one. I've compiled all of the home and away results his season, plus the goals, for every single team

I've called it the league table

Make sure you patent it, as someone here will claim it as theirs, then post it every other page in various forms, to help illustrate that we’re not in the Champions League places and Leeds are.

 

[good times bad times]

A lot of this arguing over semantics. You can't really tell if a game is/was a 'must win' or not until the season is over.

If we get relegated by 2 points, only then you can say it was those 2 dropped points at home v Villa or the 2 dropped points away to Forest.

Until then it's just a matter of not being relegated until it is mathematically impossible to stay up.

 

[Drico]

A lot of this arguing over semantics. You can't really tell if a game is/was a 'must win' or not until the season is over.

If we get relegated by 2 points, only then you can say it was those 2 dropped points at home v Villa or the 2 dropped points away to Forest.

Until then it just a matter of not being relegated until it is mathematically impossible to stay up.

It's the trend that matters. Right now, our season has been so poor that we need better than average results to rebalance our situation. In golfing terms, a draw at Forest is a par hole, but we need to be breaking par now and this "hole" was likely one of the better opportunities to do that. It would have had the added bonus of putting our opponent in the water had we done so.

Dyche gives us a chance, but we need to start winning the odd game or two now - when the chance arises. The overall trend - particularly our results against our direct rivals - suggests we will not be able to win enough games to stay up. Draws, in our position, will not be enough. In our position, every game is a "must win" - at least in the sense that we need to start getting some wins. Given our ability - and that of our opponent today - this afternoon was a really important game and a decent chance to win. We missed that - adding to the trend.

 

[The binman chronicles]

We have four wins at home all season. Let's not get carried away. Of course we are more likely to win at home than away - that's the case for most sides - but the reality is we are not likely to win at all. Full stop. Each game is worth three points and we cannot go around throwing points away on the road and expect to dig ourselves out at home when we have been beaten seven times in our own stadium this season. Next week we face a side that beat us in just as huge a game at home last season. I admire your confidence. I just don't share it. This side does not earn the confidence of its supporters.

4 wins all season but 2 in our last 3. If the supporters are up for it we have a chance. I'm not confident of a result like you say they haven't earned that but I believe it is far more likely.

 

[jomack]

It’s all about fighting spirit (again !!). I know it is obvious. Fighting for every ball and then moving it quick, picking the right passes. Not so much systems. We have to keep the fighting spirit going until it’s impossible not to stay in the Prem.
It’s down to us all to keep the fighting spirit throughout the Club.

 

[Khalekan]

The stat that truly kills us is our head-to-head with our direct rivals (Southampton, Bournemouth, Wolves, Leicester, West Ham, Leeds, and Forest).

By my calculations, we are P8 W1 D2 L5

That tells you all you need to know.

Indeed.

And against Wolves, Saints, Forest and Leeds away we lost twice and drew twice after being in front.

Ten points dropped against relegation rivals after being in front.

 

[Carlito]

I couldn't really say it's a bad result when I didn't have any expectation of winning beforehand, but it still feels like points dropped (especially when we owed them one for the game at Goodison).

Brentford on Saturday was already the next fixture to look to after Villa, but we could have taken a lot of pressure off by holding on today.

 

[good times bad times]

It's the trend that matters. Right now, our season has been so poor that we need better than average results to rebalance our situation. In golfing terms, a draw at Forest is a par hole, but we need to be breaking par now and this "hole" was likely one of the better opportunities to do that. It would have had the added bonus of putting our opponent in the water had we done so.

Dyche gives us a chance, but we need to start winning the odd game or two now - when the chance arises. The overall trend - particularly our results against our direct rivals - suggests we will not be able to win enough games to stay up. Draws, in our position, will not be enough. In our position, every game is a "must win" - at least in the sense that we need to start getting some wins. Given our ability - and that of our opponent today - this afternoon was a really important game and a decent chance to win. We missed that - adding to the trend.

Our chances of better than average results improves significantly if Calvert Lewin returns and stays fit, but unfortunately we can't bank on that happening.

Also whether or not a game is a must win depends how the other teams around us do. It will be a topsy-turvy ride between now and the season's end.

There's a lot still to play for, although with each passing game the light at the end of the tunnel is getting dimmer and dimmer.

 

[RomanReigns]

it will go down to the final game v bournemouth

we will be in the bottom 3 needing a win to stay up or something but also needing other results to go in our favour

 

[m hart89 efc]

I don’t really know how to feel after todays game. Depends if you’re a glass half full or half empty. The positives are we’ve looked a lot better under dyche than Lampard, if we keep that level of performance we’ll win games, whether we win enough is anyone’s guess. We’ve got a good away point today and should have won against a team unbeaten at home since September.

Negatives are we’re still in bottom 3 with a tough looking fixture list coming up, we threw away 2 important points today, individuals keep making basic errors leading to goals and we don’t score enough. It’s 50/50 now whether we stay up or go down I think. Im worried though we got lucky last season and we won’t get that lucky again second time round.

 

[Drico]

Our chances of better than average results improves significantly if Calvert Lewin returns and stays fit, but unfortunately we can't bank on that happening.

Also whether or not a game is a must win depends how the other teams around us do. It will be a topsy-turvy ride between now and the season's end.

There's a lot still to play for, although with each passing game the light at the end of the tunnel is getting dimmer and dimmer.

Absolutely. I'm not saying we can't stay up - of course we can. I am saying that if you put a gun to my head to predict what would happen, my gut says we will be relegated. I felt we needed three points today to change that calculation. I told myself before the game that if we did not win, I should start to prepare for the worst. So, as far as I am concerned, barring a big upturn, I don't see us staying up. It'll be a sad day if that happens, but I can't say it is undeserved. For me, it certainly won't be unexpected.

 

[APN_EFC]

I was looking for 18 points from 15 games to get to 39 points. So far we have 1 point out of 6 that I needed for my list.
Now we need an extra 5 from somewhere. But for this to work we need away wins at Brentford, Wolves and Leicester. 3 away wins!! and to not lose to Spurs, Newcastle and Brighton. and bournemouth, who almost beat Arsenal. wow. The only hope now is that one out of Leeds, Forest, West Ham, Palace or Leicester have a horrible run in.

Villa (H) - 3 pts / RESULT 0 POINTS
Arsenal (A) - 0 / RESULT 0 POINTS
Forest (A) - 3 / RESULT 1 POINT
Brentford (H) - 1 / UPDATE TO 3 points
Chelsea (A) - 0
Spurs (H) - 0 / UPDATE TO 1
Man U (A) - 0
Fulham (H) - 1
Palace (A) - 1 / UPDATE TO 3 points
Newcastle (H) - 1
Leicester (A) - 3
Brighton (A) - 1
Man City (H) - 0
Wolves (A) - 3
Bournemouth (H) - 1