West Ham, Newcastle, Brighton , Burnley, Wolves haven‘t yo yo ed
Most of the them have been promoted during last 5-6 years, look at where Wolves and West Ham are.
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Most of the them have been promoted during last 5-6 years, look at where Wolves and West Ham are.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £25m
I said to a friend the other day that we'll be in a relegation battle next season whichever division we're in for this exact reason.
'As soon as Leeds'?
Even I'm not that negative! Leeds were down 16 years.
I think realistically we'd be looking at a Villa-type scenario. If we managed to keep the core of the squad together we'd be able to get out of it first time but it's a big if
West Ham last got promoted in 2012
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
'As soon as Leeds'?
Even I'm not that negative! Leeds were down 16 years.
I think realistically we'd be looking at a Villa-type scenario. If we managed to keep the core of the squad together we'd be able to get out of it first time but it's a big if
I think the opposite tbh. We need a new group of players to get us back up, no chance this lot could cope with the Championship. I honestly think we’d win about 4 away games. We need a thorough overhaul of the squad whatever happens.
sbbefc
Player Valuation: £30m
Sorry to hear about your mum and I hope you're coping OK. I lost my mum October 2020 so I can relate to some extent. What I've come to learn from the experience is that there's far more important things to worry about in life than the fortunes of a football club. I obviously still want the club to do well, I'm dreading relegation and I still go to the odd gane. But I won't let it control my life. I used to follow religiously but the last couple of years I've been doing things I actually enjoy on match days. Went on a bike ride this Sunday and had a few pints in non-football showing pubs. Felt the better for it.
knowing your history
Player Valuation: £30m
People assume club won't sign anyone, club will still be a big draw at championship level for players.
When West Ham went down in 2011 they signed Kevin Nolan who was captain of mid table Newcastle in the prem. Came straight back up (via play offs).
When Newcastle went down in 2016 they sold likes of Winjinaldum and Sissoko for 50m + and signed Dwight Gayle who scored 25 goals and they came up with pretty much 100 points.
Villa was a bit different as they were in ownership chaos for ages but eventually they got decent ones and signed likes of John Terry and Tammy Abraham (after he'd had a prem loan with Swansea) so really it's all about targeting a really good attacker in final third who floats around prem and championship or is young and up and coming.
Get that right and it's not hard to challenge for promotion. Half this lot will be going regardless so need 6-8 new signings in the summer anyway regardless of division.
'As soon as Leeds'?
Even I'm not that negative! Leeds were down 16 years.
I think realistically we'd be looking at a Villa-type scenario. If we managed to keep the core of the squad together we'd be able to get out of it first time but it's a big if
I can't think of anything worse
Jay
Player Valuation: £8m
The only thing that changed from 2-3 weeks ago is Burnley getting 6 points from their last 2 games, we are where we were supposed to be
We should still target 3 wins and 2 draws from the remaining 6 games:
Must Win:
Home to Brentford
Home to Palace
Win one and draw 2:
Home to Chelsea
Away to Leicester
Away to Watford
11 points = 40 points = safety (regardless of what happens to Burnley and Leeds)
We should still target 3 wins and 2 draws from the remaining 6 games:
Must Win:
Home to Brentford
Home to Palace
Win one and draw 2:
Home to Chelsea
Away to Leicester
Away to Watford
11 points = 40 points = safety (regardless of what happens to Burnley and Leeds)
Spadge Vernacular
Player Valuation: £70m
Football has existed longer than 17 years or so mate. The only acceptable measure is the previous years performance.
witchdoc187
Player Valuation: £60m
Ron1878
Player Valuation: £500k
We had the deepest pockets. Having the dough is nothing without out a plan and spending it right.
By that I mean so it's not that we need to buy 15 players and only need to buy, say, 7-8
Rich, Dom, Mina, Allan - they're out of the door straight away for various reasons.
You can probably keep Doucoure (he'd be miles better than anything else in that league lets be honest, in that role at least), and Iwobi (though if we could move him on then maybe for the best), same with Gray, Gordon.
Pickford's a weird one. We'd need his wages off the books obviously but there just isn't a market for him. It's mad as he's clearly England's best GK but what team buys him? None in the big 6 do, Villa, West Ham don't need a GK, he's never going to go to Newcastle. Southampton probably wouldn't break their wage structure to sign him and I don't see him going abroad. Maybe would end up being a loan to bloody Fulham or something under Silva ffs.
Anyway, regardless of that, there has to be a balance struck. You can't expect a squad of 15 new players to gel in what is a very short pre-season (if we go down we'll start our new season July 30th/31st), while there's been so much upheaval, and hit the ground running in that league.
So get rid of what we can but be realistic on the numbers.
A core of Doucoure, Iwobi, Gray, Gordon, Godfrey, the FBs, and ffs maybe even Keane because who takes him (but sell him if poss), is a decent enough start to build from there, with Townsend, Davies to come back from injury. It'll still require a lot of work but if you completely rip everything to shreds over one window it's not going to help in that league. Has to be done sensibly.
Yeah Tim mate neither can I but you have to be realistic.
If Everton, with their financial issues, need to buy 15 new players this summer to gel right away to then be able to get the points needed to get us up, then we're on a hiding to nothing already.
So by 'core' I mean just keeping the bunch of players that we don't absolutely need to sell, and can offer something. The rest obviously would have to go. But this ain't footy manager or FIFA.
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