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But we wouldn't be there mathematically, that's what i'm saying. If we get 41 and the other two win their 3 remaining games then we'll go down because they'll have 43 so we'd still in essence be relying on others. Either we 'need' 44 to be mathematically safe, or we go off a gut feeling of what will be enough. For me I think one more win will probably do it but yeah i'd much rather we don't do that!
Leeds and Burnley won’t win 3/3 be surprised it’s either get a point. Leeds are more likely then Burnley to get points.
Win on Wednesday that’s our target.

A weeks a long time in football that’s for sure. What a difference.

Burnley score 2 goals in the final 10 minutes and celebrate like there staying up after going 5 points ahead of us.. a week later and they are a point behind us and we still have a game in hand
 

Premier League relegation odds and fixtures as Burnley, Leeds & Everton battle for survival​


By Sporting Life
13:14 · MON May 09, 2022

The battle to avoid the final relegation spot in the Premier League is down to three with Burnley, Everton and Leeds all fighting for survival.
On average, over the past 10 seasons, 35 points has been enough to retain your spot in England's top-flight, with no side going higher than that across the past five campaigns.
It looks like more will be needed this season as Everton reached that mark with a rare away win at Leicester on Sunday. Leeds replaced them in the relegation zone after their 2-1 defeat to Arsenal at the Emirates.
Jesse Marsch's side are now odds-on for the drop, with Burnley a close second-favourite following a disappointing 3-1 defeat to Aston Villa.
Norwich and Watford have both been relegated with games to spare, falling far behind the battle for safety.
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Premier League relegation odds (via Sky Bet)​

  • 10/11 - Leeds
  • 1/1 - Burnley
  • 10/1 - Everton
Odds correct at 1800 (08/05/22)
relegation %

What are Leeds' remaining fixtures?​

  • Wednesday, May 11: Chelsea (H)
  • Sunday, May 15: Brighton (H)
  • Sunday, May 22: Brentford (A)

What are Burnley's remaining fixtures?​

  • Sunday, May 15: Tottenham (A)
  • Thursday, May 19: Aston Villa (A)
  • Sunday, May 22: Newcastle (H)

What are Everton's remaining fixtures?​

  • Wednesday, May 11: Watford (A)
  • Sunday, May 15: Brentford (H)
  • Thursday, May 19: Crystal Palace (H)
  • Sunday, May 22: Arsenal (A)
 

Leeds and Burnley won’t win 3/3 be surprised it’s either get a point. Leeds are more likely then Burnley to get points.
Win on Wednesday that’s our target.

A weeks a long time in football that’s for sure. What a difference.

Burnley score 2 goals in the final 10 minutes and celebrate like there staying up after going 5 points ahead of us.. a week later and they are a point behind us and we still have a game in hand

In the same vein a win for Leeds and or Burnley this week and losses for us will have us right back in the mire again.
We just cannot take anything for granted now. I liked that we carried that attitude in to the Leicester game and should be the same for Watford. Every game is more important than the last!
 
This may have already been done but thought i'd post anyway in case.

43 points is the number that mathematically sees us safe due to Leeds significantly worse GD. Which is 2 wins, 2 draws for us. Neither Leeds or Burnley can get to 42 points either with the games left.

Meaning that the following points totals have the following implications for all teams involved. I am basing this on the other teams only getting the points mentioned below, not what they can mathematically get (e.g maximum points, already covered).

41 (2 wins out of our remaining 4 games)
Southampton: would have to get a draw against Liverpool H or Leicester A. However, it's unlikely they will finish with a better GD than us regardless.
Burnley: Would need to take 7 points from 9 against Spurs A, Villa A, Newcastle H. Burnley likely to finish with a better GD than us in my opinion
Leeds: Neither of the above 2 teams would matter to us because even if Leeds got 7 points from 9, they would have a worse GD than us.
EVERTON STAY UP ON GD AHEAD OF LEEDS (AND LIKELY SOUTHAMPTON TOO)

40 (1 win and 2 draws out of our remaining 4 games)

Southampton: If Southampton lose both games they finish on 40. Would almost certainly finish below us due to GD.
Burnley: Would need to win 2 out of their last 3. Burnley likely to finish with a better GD than us in my opinion
Leeds: Would need to win 2 out of their last 3. WIll finish below us on GD.
EVERTON STAY UP ON GD AHEAD OF LEEDS (AND LIKELY SOUTHAMPTON TOO)

I personally don't think 2 wins out of 3 can be written off for either Burnley or Leeds so I think 40 points is the total that will see us safe, even if not mathematically. It also keeps Southampton in the conversation for us.

But due to Leeds poor GD if we match their final points total as everyone knows, then they will go down regardless.
 

It is so weird how much Watford hate us apparently for no reason other than because we took a manager and a player off them years ago.

Proper small time bunch.

Tbf, we'd be annoyed if another club tried to big boy us and tap up our manager

Silva was never the same for them after we turned his head and they'd been tootling along mostly fine prior to it

I get it to a certain extent, but I must admit I'd like the feud to be over

It does nothing for them and it doesn't help us either
 
Tbf, we'd be annoyed if another club tried to big boy us and tap up our manager

Silva was never the same for them after we turned his head and they'd been tootling along mostly fine prior to it

I get it to a certain extent, but I must admit I'd like the feud to be over

It does nothing for them and it doesn't help us either
I’m not sure we tapped him up. We offered them compensation for him, they refused, we walked away and hired Big Undies.

Then we appointed Silva after they sacked him 4 months later as is often the Watford way.
 

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