Relegation

[Brennan]

Anyone who thinks we are no longer in danger is deluding themselves.
However a few more performances like that and we'll be fine and able to look positively towards next season.

Norwich have 14 games to overturn effectively a six point deficit over us with goal difference taken into account. They’ve won 4 in 24 games and were absolutely gash in the last two games.

I think there’s only been one or two occasions in the past decade where a side 16th or higher at this stage of the season have been relegated. That was Middlesbrough and Norwich.

We’ll be fine and it’s not ‘deluded’ to think so. It’s evidence based.

 

[daza_1973]

With Leicester, Newcastle, Wolves, Palace and Brentford at home on yesterdays evidence 40 points is achievable.
Maybe a few sneaky draws away too.

 

[Gilbert..]

I think watford have gone. They needed to come out blazing and hope for the best with a brave manager. Hodgson will be the complete opposite and try and win every game 1-0.
If we hadnt rolled over at norwich under b*****z then it may have been done and dusted. Them having city and liverpool has done us a favour. Had to win yest to get that gap. Huge huge win yest.

 

[MikeH72]

Norwich have 14 games to overturn effectively a six point deficit over us with goal difference taken into account. They’ve won 4 in 24 games and were absolutely gash in the last two games.

I think there’s only been one or two occasions in the past decade where a side 16th or higher at this stage of the season have been relegated. That was Middlesbrough and Norwich.

We’ll be fine and it’s not ‘deluded’ to think so. It’s evidence based.

But there are other teams in the battle and not just Norwich, and there are 3 relegations spots not just 1. It definitely is deluded and complacent to think we’re safe with 22 points and over a third of the season still to play. I think we’re looking at a point at best from our next 3 games before Wolves at home. Our season will be defined by 3 fixtures, Burnley, Newcastle and Watford. I am remaining cautious and still fully awake to the situation we’re in.

 

[Connor]

There is plenty of work to be done, and our next two are very tricky - that's putting it lightly considering we play City in those. However, yesterday was a massive boost and exactly what we needed.

If we continue to make Goodison horrible like that, we've got one hell of an advantage.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

If we keep playing the way we have done at home under Lampard so far then 4 more wins is more than achievable.

 

[Brennan]

But there are other teams in the battle and not just Norwich, and there are 3 relegations spots not just 1. It definitely is deluded and complacent to think we’re safe with 22 points and over a third of the season still to play. I think we’re looking at a point at best from our next 3 games before Wolves at home. Our season will be defined by 3 fixtures, Burnley, Newcastle and Watford. I am remaining cautious and still fully awake to the situation we’re in.

The other teams are doing even worse than Norwich in the case of Watford, and even further away in terms of points in Burnley.

It’s not deluded to think we’re safe from relegation when all of the long term trends suggest we are.

Saying for an absolute fact we are safe is a different thing, nobody is saying that from what I can see. Nobody is putting their life savings on it.

 

[MikeH72]

The other teams are doing even worse than Norwich in the case of Watford, and even further away in terms of points in Burnley.

It’s not deluded to think we’re safe from relegation when all of the long term trends suggest we are.

Saying for an absolute fact we are safe is a different thing, nobody is saying that from what I can see. Nobody is putting their life savings on it.

Long term trends? We’ve just ended a run of 1 win in 16 games. That’s worse form than any of the other teams.

 

[Brennan]

Long trends trends? We’ve just ended a run of 1 win in 16 games. That’s worse form than any of the other teams.

Long term league trends around which teams get relegated.

It’s the same reason people always go on about 40 points equalling safety, even though technically it’s not the case.

16 games is not a long term trend, regardless we’ve just won two of three against PL opposition and scored in all three.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Where’s all the doom mongers now? Wetting the bed with half a season to go. Saying it was a worse situation than cov or Wimbledon

Only 1 game. It needs to be followed up.

 

[MACCA75]

The other teams are doing even worse than Norwich in the case of Watford, and even further away in terms of points in Burnley.

It’s not deluded to think we’re safe from relegation when all of the long term trends suggest we are.

Saying for an absolute fact we are safe is a different thing, nobody is saying that from what I can see. Nobody is putting their life savings on it.

‘Long term trends’ would still have us bottom of the table since the start of October.
I hope our players aren’t as complacent as this.

 

[Brennan]

‘Long term trends’ would still have us bottom of the table since the start of October.
I hope our players aren’t as complacent as this.

Confidence =/= complacency

I have firm belief in the team.

 

[Brennan]

Where’s all the doom mongers now? Wetting the bed with half a season to go. Saying it was a worse situation than cov or Wimbledon

Giving people stick for being worried is a bit unnecessary. Should just be happy we’ve won.

 

[sbbefc]

The other teams are doing even worse than Norwich in the case of Watford, and even further away in terms of points in Burnley.

It’s not deluded to think we’re safe from relegation when all of the long term trends suggest we are.

Saying for an absolute fact we are safe is a different thing, nobody is saying that from what I can see. Nobody is putting their life savings on it.

The trouble for me has been the fact we went 15 (not exactly sure what it was 1 win in 15?) or so game losing streak. It shows we are capable of disastrous form over a long period. If we did that again we would go down. Definitely good signs the last two home games though.

Let's, also not forget our injury list could lengthen (but so could our rivals) and if we hit a bad run of form suspensions could also come into play. All ifs and buts though.

It's just a shame we didn't bin off FSW earlier than we did. Or best of all, not had employed him.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

No team will play so open against us as leeds did today, or maybe Citeh in 2 weeks but I always said we need at least 3 wins to stay up and today was number one. Lets see what we can do next week. On todays display, we look to be ready for anyone. Well done Frank Lampard, well done lads!

3 wins? Do you really think 28 points would be enough to stay up? I think 38 would be the minimum and even then we would be in the bottom 6. There are always a couple of teams that dragged into the relegation fight and 1 or 2 that go on a run of good results. I think we would be down with 28 points.