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Remembering Moyes

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Just a shrug of the shoulders and a 'whatever' from me.

Moyes was like an ex bird. We split up,they had been flirting with the personal trainer and were getting all sorts of compliments , our relationship was stale and going nowhere so they jumped ship. There was a little crossover and we were a bit put out!! So while they were off getting seen round town 'the happy couple' we had to listen to all our friends tell us how wonderful the new pair were, and what a perfect match they were, we had to go out and find ourselves a new piece. Turns out our new piece is an absolute stunner and a nympho to boot! They do things you could only dream of, or once saw on a porno,and the ex is a long forgotten notch on the bed post.

David moyes, there were good times, there were bad times, there won't be any more times

Allez Allez Allez oooooooh
 
nigelcoyb said:
Really not so I and others have been saying this for years.

To Ihaterrs

Allardyce and Bolton was at least the equivalent of Moyes and Everton and in truth he was far more innovative with his signings of the likes of Okocha etc.
Pulis at Stoke is also debatable given where they've come from and now what he's doing at Palace.

Mcarthy is to football what a vagrant is too personal hygiene.
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Wut???
 
Allezfan said:
Allardyce at Bolton did a better job than Moyes at Everton, like. Stand by that.
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I don,t agree with that.
I was getting fed up with moyes but he did a fantastic job here.
We were in an awful mess when he came and he left us a top 6 club.
Allardyce did not think ahead he lived for the day and constantly bought players at the end of their careers.
He did a great job at Bolton but moyes planned for the future and left us in a great position.
As soon as fat sam left Bolton nosedived because of Sammy lee and what players were left.
Roberto has taken us upward but he was left fantastic foundations because of moyes
 
nigelcoyb said:
Really not so I and others have been saying this for years.

To Ihaterrs

Allardyce and Bolton was at least the equivalent of Moyes and Everton and in truth he was far more innovative with his signings of the likes of Okocha etc.
Pulis at Stoke is also debatable given where they've come from and now what he's doing at Palace.

Mcarthy is to football what a vagrant is too personal hygiene.
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Lol I think I'll leave it on that..
 
Wouldn't criticise Fat Sam too much, after all he was waiting for the call from R M
and in the frame for the England job.
 

Copacabana kid said:
Just a shrug of the shoulders and a 'whatever' from me.

Moyes was like an ex bird. We split up,they had been flirting with the personal trainer and were getting all sorts of compliments , our relationship was stale and going nowhere so they jumped ship. There was a little crossover and we were a bit put out!! So while they were off getting seen round town 'the happy couple' we had to listen to all our friends tell us how wonderful the new pair were, and what a perfect match they were, we had to go out and find ourselves a new piece. Turns out our new piece is an absolute stunner and a nympho to boot! They do things you could only dream of, or once saw on a porno,and the ex is a long forgotten notch on the bed post.

David moyes, there were good times, there were bad times, there won't be any more times

Allez Allez Allez oooooooh
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Roberto the nympho! Love it. Allez allez allez ooooohhhhhhh!
 
Unless one is a palaeontologist, it is (evolutionary-wise) retrogressive to navel-gaze fossilised footprints. Let's move on Evertonians.
 
Up until I was 19 I had never been to Goodison Park due mainly to living in Kent and playing football Saturdays and Sundays. I then started Uni in Sheffield in 1997 and in January 1999 I paid my first ever visit to Goodison.

I went to see us play Leicester. It finished 0-0 and was one of the worst games of football I had seen at any level. However it didn’t put me off and later that month I went to see my second game at Goodison. We were playing Forest who were bottom of the league and on some ridiculous run of something like 17 games without a win. I thought things couldn’t get any worse. They did. It was even colder, we played even worse and lost 1-0 to an abysmal Forest team.

I’ve just gone back to look at the stats for the 1998/99 season. We didn’t score in our first 5 home league games, our first home league goal of the season came on 31 October when lost 4-1 to United. By the end of that Forest game I saw, which was on 31 January 1999, we had scored three goals at Goodison in the League!

The only consolation I had was a couple of weeks after the Forest game I went to see us play Middlesborough in a midweek game. Amazingly after so few goals we won 5-0! I think Franny Jeffers scored a couple and I remember Dacourt and Materazzi scoring as well. I will never forget waiting at Liverpool Lime Street for a train back to Sheffield and an old fella seeing my Everton shirt asking me the score. When I told him we won 5-0 he couldn’t believe it as it was the first home game he had missed all season – his wife had convinced him to go to theatre with her for her birthday!

Whatever we think of Moyes last few seasons, the way he transformed the very dull and poor team we had under Smith, was pretty remarkable. If we could take a snapshot of what people were saying about Moyes after his first three or four seasons, I think the responses would be as euphoric and positive as they are currently about Bobby M. However for what it is worth now I look at it, it seems Moyes took us as far as he could.

Bobby M is the modern day Fonz.
 

Thought I'd bump this thread because Moyes has given his first interview since he was sacked, in the Sunday paper:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ster-United-never-gave-time-succeed-fail.html

Some Everton mentions:

‘The job at Everton was so good. I worked for a great chairman, great people at the club.'

‘It was not easy to begin with at Everton either. We had a couple of tough years before we had the club the way we wanted it.'

‘I saw what I thought were important similarities between United and Everton. Like the focus on developing young players. Look at the players we brought through at Everton. As well as the ones we brought in. You go back to Wayne Rooney and all the other lads. Ross Barkley, Pienaar, Coleman, Jagielka, Baines and Lescott. We signed John Stones. We had a really good club at Everton who gave me the opportunity to do the job the way I felt it needed to be done.’

By accident I (the journo writing the piece) met Moyes in London the night he got the United job. He had travelled down to complete the formalities with Bill Kenwright, the Everton chairman he admired so much. Moyes was with his brother and adviser, Kenny, and was clearly excited by the prospect of succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson. It was the job he had always craved.

I’d been at Everton for more than 11 years. We’d qualified for the Champions League, got to an FA Cup final, I’d been voted manager of the season three times. I was among the most experienced managers in the Premier League.

He is candid enough to admit that, in hindsight, he might have done certain things differently at United. ‘If there was one thing I would have changed I would have started the day after I finished the season with Everton,’ he says. ‘Instead of waiting until July 1, I’d have started immediately.’ An Everton contract that ran until June 30 meant he couldn’t. ‘And within a few days of starting I was off on tour all around Asia,’ he says.

‘I also went into the job thinking I want to do exactly what I did at Everton. I want to be the same person. I want to manage in the same style. Because why would I change when I had success working that way? But now, looking back, I think there might have to have been a slightly different approach. I might have altered the style in which I managed.’

Moyes responds to certain accusations that were levelled at him. For instance, had he encouraged Rio Ferdinand to study a video of Phil Jagielka? ‘That’s nonsense,’ he says. ‘I would never do that.’

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Still very surprised at how little Everton seemed to have touched him, despite being manager for 11 years. After everything that has happened, he still seems very reverent towards Man Utd ('If you're a Man Utd player, this is how you act' etc).

It doesn't seem to have put his Everton career into an improved light in his eyes, which I'm surprised about. I wasn't expecting him to say 'I should have never left Everton' but he's still saying nice stuff about United, stuff he never really said about us. He seems to put United on a higher pedestal than us, which proves to me that he shockingly never truly 'got us'. You never get people like Royle, Southall, etc saying stuff like that. Everton are always the special club in their eyes.
 
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BoysInBlue said:
Thought I'd bump this thread because Moyes has given his first interview since he was sacked, in the Sunday paper:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ster-United-never-gave-time-succeed-fail.html

Some Everton mentions:

‘The job at Everton was so good. I worked for a great chairman, great people at the club.'

‘It was not easy to begin with at Everton either. We had a couple of tough years before we had the club the way we wanted it.'

‘I saw what I thought were important similarities between United and Everton. Like the focus on developing young players. Look at the players we brought through at Everton. As well as the ones we brought in. You go back to Wayne Rooney and all the other lads. Ross Barkley, Pienaar, Coleman, Jagielka, Baines and Lescott. We signed John Stones. We had a really good club at Everton who gave me the opportunity to do the job the way I felt it needed to be done.’

By accident I (the journo writing the piece) met Moyes in London the night he got the United job. He had travelled down to complete the formalities with Bill Kenwright, the Everton chairman he admired so much. Moyes was with his brother and adviser, Kenny, and was clearly excited by the prospect of succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson. It was the job he had always craved.

I’d been at Everton for more than 11 years. We’d qualified for the Champions League, got to an FA Cup final, I’d been voted manager of the season three times. I was among the most experienced managers in the Premier League.

He is candid enough to admit that, in hindsight, he might have done certain things differently at United. ‘If there was one thing I would have changed I would have started the day after I finished the season with Everton,’ he says. ‘Instead of waiting until July 1, I’d have started immediately.’ An Everton contract that ran until June 30 meant he couldn’t. ‘And within a few days of starting I was off on tour all around Asia,’ he says.

‘I also went into the job thinking I want to do exactly what I did at Everton. I want to be the same person. I want to manage in the same style. Because why would I change when I had success working that way? But now, looking back, I think there might have to have been a slightly different approach. I might have altered the style in which I managed.’

Moyes responds to certain accusations that were levelled at him. For instance, had he encouraged Rio Ferdinand to study a video of Phil Jagielka? ‘That’s nonsense,’ he says. ‘I would never do that.’

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Still very surprised at how little Everton seemed to have touched him, despite being manager for 11 years. After everything that has happened, he still seems very reverent towards Man Utd ('If you're a Man Utd player, this is how you act' etc).

It doesn't seem to have put his Everton career into an improved light in his eyes, which I'm surprised about. I wasn't expecting him to say 'I should have never left Everton' but he's still saying nice stuff about United, stuff he never really said about us. He seems to put United on a higher pedestal than us, which proves to me that he shockingly never truly 'got us'. You never get people like Royle, Southall, etc saying like that. Everton are always the special club in their eyes.
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Truth is he never really got us, it was always the davey moyes show
 
BoysInBlue said:
Thought I'd bump this thread because Moyes has given his first interview since he was sacked, in the Sunday paper:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ster-United-never-gave-time-succeed-fail.html

Some Everton mentions:

‘The job at Everton was so good. I worked for a great chairman, great people at the club.'

‘It was not easy to begin with at Everton either. We had a couple of tough years before we had the club the way we wanted it.'

‘I saw what I thought were important similarities between United and Everton. Like the focus on developing young players. Look at the players we brought through at Everton. As well as the ones we brought in. You go back to Wayne Rooney and all the other lads. Ross Barkley, Pienaar, Coleman, Jagielka, Baines and Lescott. We signed John Stones. We had a really good club at Everton who gave me the opportunity to do the job the way I felt it needed to be done.’

By accident I (the journo writing the piece) met Moyes in London the night he got the United job. He had travelled down to complete the formalities with Bill Kenwright, the Everton chairman he admired so much. Moyes was with his brother and adviser, Kenny, and was clearly excited by the prospect of succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson. It was the job he had always craved.

I’d been at Everton for more than 11 years. We’d qualified for the Champions League, got to an FA Cup final, I’d been voted manager of the season three times. I was among the most experienced managers in the Premier League.

He is candid enough to admit that, in hindsight, he might have done certain things differently at United. ‘If there was one thing I would have changed I would have started the day after I finished the season with Everton,’ he says. ‘Instead of waiting until July 1, I’d have started immediately.’ An Everton contract that ran until June 30 meant he couldn’t. ‘And within a few days of starting I was off on tour all around Asia,’ he says.

‘I also went into the job thinking I want to do exactly what I did at Everton. I want to be the same person. I want to manage in the same style. Because why would I change when I had success working that way? But now, looking back, I think there might have to have been a slightly different approach. I might have altered the style in which I managed.’

Moyes responds to certain accusations that were levelled at him. For instance, had he encouraged Rio Ferdinand to study a video of Phil Jagielka? ‘That’s nonsense,’ he says. ‘I would never do that.’

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Still very surprised at how little Everton seemed to have touched him, despite being manager for 11 years. After everything that has happened, he still seems very reverent towards Man Utd ('If you're a Man Utd player, this is how you act' etc).

It doesn't seem to have put his Everton career into an improved light in his eyes, which I'm surprised about. I wasn't expecting him to say 'I should have never left Everton' but he's still saying nice stuff about United, stuff he never really said about us. He seems to put United on a higher pedestal than us, which proves to me that he shockingly never truly 'got us'. You never get people like Royle, Southall, etc saying like that. Everton are always the special club in their eyes.
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Case that feller. He's said there that the big mistake was waiting until his contract ran out at Everton on July 1st to start work for United.

He did that to avoid Everton getting any compensation.


He still can't help insulting us.
 
sageyefc said:
Truth is he never really got us, it was always the davey moyes show
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I thought at the beginning he did, I think he was excited about us and us about him. But time went on, ceilings were hit and things grew stale. Interesting he talks of how ‘We have always tried to do things the correct way' referring to the manner in which he got sacked, I've no sympathy though. He made mockery of this club and the fans that gave him a standing ovation despite agreeing to a job in principle months and months ago.
 
Ha ha ha

Had success working that way, so why change it ?

Going into games with your whole mentality based around a defensive game, playing for draws in some games and ' just getting out alive ' was never going to be enough for a team that had won 13 championships in the last 20.

Having said that, I respect what he did here and ive got nothing against him. He did what he had to do here and he did it well for the most part.
 

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