2018/19 Richarlison

[TheBigIguana]

If Kenedy can get off we should be appealing this. Doesn't sound like Silva is interested based off the post match comments.

 

[Goat]

 

[carolinablue232]

Should be able to get results there without him

Good chance to get Bernard up to speed as well. Silver lining maybe?

 

[roy vernon]

Hope he learns from this, defenders are frightened of him so they will try to wind him up. He needs to learn not to react. Having said that, he is young and a very good footballer so I can forgive him today’s one, I would hate to see him take the bait again though.

 

[Eggs]

..I haven’t seen the incident but if he’s head butted (no matter if it’s timid or not) it’s a red and a 3 match ban.

The major issue I have is referees applying decisions consistently regardless of the opposition. Man City conceded a blatant hand ball goal and had a stonewall penalty turned down that I doubt would’ve applied to a certain other Premiership team.

 

[kenada_blue]

Good chance to get Bernard up to speed as well. Silver lining maybe?

And lookman if he's still here

 

[Kos]

See nothing in it to be honest. I can see I'm missing something here, and I hate AFL, but at least the game goes along. He did nothing Smith didn't do. Extended his neck at the wrong time maybe. That's not a headbut

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I honestly disagree about the blatant red part. I just think that violent conduct reds should be issued for actual violence and there is a part of the rule that says similar. For me what he did doesn't qualify.

Hogg got a similar deal against Cardiff today (with Arter being the player involved, bad tits Bournemouth produce). But I feel similarly in that it just wasn't a hard and dangerous attack as much as stupid and petulant. Both yellows for me.

It's classed as violent conduct.

Referees aren't given the autonomy to determine whether it was only a little headbutt, or an attempted headbutt or whether the headbutt was a good one.

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

See nothing in it to be honest. I can see I'm missing something here, and I hate AFL, but at least the game goes along. He did nothing Smith didn't do. Extended his neck at the wrong time maybe. That's not a headbut

But it was more than enough. He moved his head towards his and made slight contact. The way the game is now over head injuries they have to give a straight red. I think it was a soft decision and in my mind a caution would be enough but it's just the way the game is now.

 

[Shibbywiggles]

If Kenedy can get off we should be appealing this. Doesn't sound like Silva is interested based off the post match comments.

The reason Kennedy got off is because the ref acknowledged it during the game and chose not to send him off. It’s a stupid, stupid law but that’s why.
I absolutely hate that what Richarlison did can be even considered as anything more than a sensible ref walking over to both of them and telling them both to pack it in but there you go, the games gone

 

[TheBigIguana]

It's classed as violent conduct.

Referees aren't given the autonomy to determine whether it was only a little headbutt, or an attempted headbutt or whether the headbutt was a good one.

They are given that power though. The rule actually says that striking a player is a red card unless the force is negligible. So it is open to the ref to look at it and decide.

 

[TheBigIguana]

The reason Kennedy got off is because the ref acknowledged it during the game and chose not to send him off. It’s a stupid, stupid law but that’s why.
I absolutely hate that what Richarlison did can be even considered as anything more than a sensible ref walking over to both of them and telling them both to pack it in but there you go, the games gone

Didn't realize the ref reported he saw Kenedy. I guess that shows the level of refereeing on display though as Pawson has ignored the two most obvious reds in that match and still managed to send someone off.

 

[bluesb1970]

The reason Kennedy got off is because the ref acknowledged it during the game and chose not to send him off. It’s a stupid, stupid law but that’s why.
I absolutely hate that what Richarlison did can be even considered as anything more than a sensible ref walking over to both of them and telling them both to pack it in but there you go, the games gone

He didn’t acknowledge it. If he had he’dve been sent off

 

[blulouie]

The reason Kennedy got off is because the ref acknowledged it during the game and chose not to send him off. It’s a stupid, stupid law but that’s why.
I absolutely hate that what Richarlison did can be even considered as anything more than a sensible ref walking over to both of them and telling them both to pack it in but there you go, the games gone

I feel pretty similar , if Probert had sternly spoke to both of them and maybe even given a yellow I doubt there would be many people screaming it should have been a sending off. The game would have just carried on without it being a major flashpoint.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

They are given that power though. The rule actually says that striking a player is a red card unless the force is negligible. So it is open to the ref to look at it and decide.

Negligible is when the strike is with the hand or arm.

That isnt the case with headbutts - they're always violent conduct no matter how soft they are.