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2020/21 Richarlison

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JMT said:
Every time he gets the ball in dangerous areas he usually ends up doing the same thing trying to feint with his body or he goes in half hearted and the defender just reads it, Maybe he's fed up of playing on the left or he's carrying a knock.
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His ability to beat a man in a 1v1 is a real issue if you're playing him on the wing. I genuinely still think he's going to need to move to striker to become anything like a world class player. His ball retention, dribbling ability and creativity are far from elite for a wide player.
 
I really like Richarlison, but, strange as it may be to say this, I think he could really learn from DCL. What a model pro that lad has been this last 18 months. He got the head down, worked on himself, soaked up the sage advice of Carlo, and is now one of the most prolific strikers in European football. There is no reason why that will not continue for him. If he cannot do it for us (if our supply lines collapse), you can bet plenty clubs will be happy to give him a shot. As for Richarlison, I think he needs to knuckle down. He's a more naturally talented player than DCL, but right now I think DCL is way ahead upstairs. All this auld talk of moving to a CL club (not that it's come from the lad himself) is deeply premature. Get the head down and show us what you can do at Everton consistently. Until then, it's just all talk and hubris.
 
Drico said:
I really like Richarlison, but, strange as it may be to say this, I think he could really learn from DCL. What a model pro that lad has been this last 18 months. He got the head down, worked on himself, soaked up the sage advice of Carlo, and is now one of the most prolific strikers in European football. There is no reason why that will not continue for him. If he cannot do it for us (if our supply lines collapse), you can bet plenty clubs will be happy to give him a shot. As for Richarlison, I think he needs to knuckle down. He's a more naturally talented player than DCL, but right now I think DCL is way ahead upstairs. All this auld talk of moving to a CL club (not that it's come from the lad himself) is deeply premature. Get the head down and show us what you can do at Everton consistently. Until then, it's just all talk and hubris.
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No need to qualify your comment; at this point DCL is flat out the better player. He’s clearly superior as the main striker, but I’d argue he’d also be more effective than Richarlison from the flanks or as a support striker. DCL’s all-round game is something to behold: quick, a relentless presser, wonderful hold up play, great layoffs, fantastic channel runs and off the ball movement, aggressive and physical, awesome aerial prowess and can shoot well with either foot. Richarlison by comparison is beginning to look like a one trick pony whose one trick has been sussed out.

The people on this forum calling him an £80-100m player are overly optimistic if not outright delusional. Do you really think that any club is going to spend that money for a player who is objectively inferior to the likes of Son, Mane, Salah, Sterling, Jota, Ziyech, Pulisic, Mahrez and Rashford, who play in his position in the EPL? I’d argue that players like Podence, Neto and even Barnes probably have more upside than Richarlison, as they seem to be on an upward career trajectory, whilst Richarlison looks to be stagnating. If he truly is angling for a move, on this season’s showing the club would be scrambling to recoup its £50m investment.
 
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TheBigIguana said:
His ability to beat a man in a 1v1 is a real issue if you're playing him on the wing. I genuinely still think he's going to need to move to striker to become anything like a world class player. His ball retention, dribbling ability and creativity are far from elite for a wide player.
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I agree but I don't think it's as black and white as you make it, He can still be a threat on the left but his attributes suit to being a striker.
 
He's been awful this season. Going the wrong way unfortunately. I don't care if he's playing well on behalf of DCL - his scoring record is embarrassing this season, he recklessly cost us loads of points from his sending off, and he looks like he has an attitude problem.
 
CWB304 said:
No need to qualify your comment; at this point DCL is flat out the better player. He’s clearly superior as the main striker, but I’d argue he’d also be more effective than Richarlison from the flanks or as a support striker. DCL’s all-round game is something to behold: quick, a relentless presser, wonderful hold up play, great layoffs, fantastic channel runs and off the ball movement, aggressive and physical, awesome aerial prowess and can shoot well with either foot. Richarlison by comparison is beginning to look like a one trick pony whose one trick has been sussed out.

The people on this forum calling him an £80-100m player are overly optimistic if not outright delusional. Do you really think that any club is going to spend that money for a player who is objectively inferior to the likes of Son, Mane, Salah, Sterling, Jota, Ziyech, Pulisic, Mahrez and Rashford, who play in his position in the EPL? I’d argue that players like Podence, Neto and even Barnes probably have more upside than Richarlison, as they seem to be on an upward career trajectory, whilst Richarlison looks to be stagnating. If he truly is angling for a move, on this season’s showing the club would be scrambling to recoup its £50m investment.
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I'd even add Bowen from West ham and djenepo at Southampton to that list of players who are showing more than him this season from a similar position. He's well down the pecking order in terms of wide supporting players in the premier league. I'd say his best position is striker, and because we play one up top, he's not getting in ahead of dcl at the minute or the foreseeable playing as a lone striker. Playing him out wide is just shoe -horning in a player who isn't suited there and who the manager would be too afraid to drop. He's a square peg in a round hole out wide. I'd say Gordon would be more effective in that wide position than him.
 

MikelsGoat said:
As if some of you are turning on him.

And you wonder why players can't wait to leave.
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I think part of it is some fans are starting to detach from him, in anticipation of him leaving.

If you know that a player wants to leave, that the club can not match his ambitions, and are less emotionally invested in a player, it is less painful when they leave.

It was similar with Lukaku who was more brazen in his flirtations and public comments toward the end, possibly as he learned of Man Uniteds interest.

I hope I am wrong but I suspect Richarlison may increase these comments if there is serious interest from a Champions League club. South American players have done this quite a lot in order to facilitate their moves.
 
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I knew we couldn't replace Lukaku when we sold him, no matter the fee received. Lukaku remains the best Everton striker since the glory days of the 1980s, and easily one of the three best players we have had since that time. Richarlison, by comparison, has a body of work ahead of him before I view his impending departure in anything like the same grim light. Indeed, given that he hasn't achieved anything like Lukaku had before he went, I think the Brazilian has at least another 18 months with us before becoming an irresistible attraction to the few clubs who could reasonably offer him more than we could. I think Richarlison could be a truly great player, but he could quite easily fall off a cliff too and stagnate if he doesn't get his head down and start learning. The petulance, hot-headedness, and powder-puff finishing needs to go. But if he listens to Carlo, who knows what he could achieve.
 
Drico said:
I knew we couldn't replace Lukaku when we sold him, no matter the fee received. Lukaku remains the best Everton striker since the glory days of the 1980s, and easily one of the three best players we have had since that time. Richarlison, by comparison, has a body of work ahead of him before I view his impending departure in anything like the same grim light. Indeed, given that he hasn't achieved anything like Lukaku had before he went, I think the Brazilian has at least another 18 months with us before becoming an irresistible attraction to the few clubs who could reasonably offer him more than we could. I think Richarlison could be a truly great player, but he could quite easily fall off a cliff too and stagnate if he doesn't get his head down and start learning. The petulance, hot-headedness, and powder-puff finishing needs to go. But if he listens to Carlo, who knows what he could achieve.
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Wasn't there something about Richy met with Carlo saying he wanted to play in Europe and Carlo said give us another year. Or was that a made up story?
 

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