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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
What are you trying to say here mate?
evertony
Player Valuation: £50m
I think the brakes were likely put on with the Moshiri buy-in lurking in the background.....
Bluebonic
Player Valuation: £35m
I know a woman from Wigan through work, knows Martinez and his wife very well (she runs a business they use) and she says he is the nicest man you will ever meet! Extremely pleasant, passionate about his family and his job and absolutely dedicated to the barca ideal! He sees things very much in terms of if you dont aspire be Barcelona, what is the point? If you dont want to play the perfect style of football, why even step onto the pitch! That (she says) is the man in a nutshell, he is above all things a true romantic.
Therein lies his (and our) major problem, when Barca arent quite on the money, it doesn't matter because they will win 6:0 in the next game, we do not, nor did Wigan. So it would appear he is not stubborn or stupid, but totally true to his footballing ideology. However, if his vision of sublime football doesnt materialise, as it hasnt been this season, then he wont do anything else because he sees any other style of football as offensive. I know lots of gunners fans who are so demoralised by Wengers absolute dedication to his footballing ideology, despite the fact it has been falling short for the past five years or so, certainly in terms of the league (and these lads are not satisfied with getting top four each year, they want to win the league)!
Therein lies his (and our) major problem, when Barca arent quite on the money, it doesn't matter because they will win 6:0 in the next game, we do not, nor did Wigan. So it would appear he is not stubborn or stupid, but totally true to his footballing ideology. However, if his vision of sublime football doesnt materialise, as it hasnt been this season, then he wont do anything else because he sees any other style of football as offensive. I know lots of gunners fans who are so demoralised by Wengers absolute dedication to his footballing ideology, despite the fact it has been falling short for the past five years or so, certainly in terms of the league (and these lads are not satisfied with getting top four each year, they want to win the league)!
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Whats your source on the wage table as the ones i looked at show us in 11th down from 9th (joint 9th).
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Thats the vision from the youth teams up. This means he will stick to his plans come rain or shine as its a long term plan.
Only way to speed it up is through money.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
That he's trying to intimate that the Internet view is out of touch with match going Evertonians
Issue?
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
from January 2015?
Aar_the_Toffees
Player Valuation: £10m
After that I'd be willing to give him till the end of the season to prove me wrong. At least he's acknowledging that were underachieving and we need to do better.
Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
Well Evertonians of all kinds are represented on here, so it doesn't always represent your match going population well I'd say.
The internet tends to be a place of extremes as well.
Having said that there is a season of discontent throughout the entire fanbase.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Why ignore what I said?
Match goers view are replicated on here, I don't know one Blue who still wants this fella to stay beyond the seasons end.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
mythbuster
Player Valuation: £35m
I do, and I still believe that most don't want him sacked in the morning. We'd be a laughing stock if we sacked our manager in April. Not sure many blues want us to be a laughing stock....
I agree that long-term, most have turned against him, but as a club, and a fan-base, we're above and beyond sacking him just yet.
JAYTALITY
Player Valuation: £30m
Mate it doesn't sway me either way. It's looking like we are going to have to smash our wage bill to pieces to keep our players that are actually worth it in the summer. We are coming out of a miserly Moyes era that I'm sure them numbers are still being impacted by to a degree despite our quality.
The numbers definitely don't represent the quality of us and where we should be. And we are beginning to hear that whisper of 'are these players as good as it's made out' I heard it amongst Evertonians and now I hear it on the media. That, my friend, is the sound of a degeneration and valuation lowering of our beloved EFC with Martinez at the helm. And I'd sooner have Martinez gone before I let that talk go on.
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kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
The week after the final game is the appropriate time I would have thought.
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