Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[kithnou]

Pressure.

Lots of it.

If he can't turn things around now, he never will.

Doesn't work that way I am afraid. He is what he is. We either take him or leave him.

 

[Elong]

Really?!

I think there's somewhere approaching zero chance of him getting sacked if we win the cup.

One can hope!

 

[whiteshadow]

On the face of it it's self defeating behaviour - unless it results in quick exit of a manager and things subsequently improve. Happened at Chelsea although hasn't improved hugely there performance wise. In any event it does look unprofessional - players like Hazard have been tarnished by it

Chelsea haven't lost in the league since Hiddink took over, isn't that a significant improvement?

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

What makes you believe you will see a new Martinez going forward all of a sudden, as opposed to what we have seen for a decade?

Very true - we'd like to give him longer - but the weight of evidence against that approach continues to stack up

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

They won.

Results matter not performances.

Obviously results matter more, but the performance mattered as well because of how crap Man U have been.

 

[kithnou]

Very true - we'd like to give him longer - but the weight of evidence against that approach continues to stack up

People are what they are..

 

[lancs blue]

If hes making insane comments when the pressure is quite low imagine what it would be like with fans shouting martinez out. Hed be a blubbering school child

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

Chelsea haven't lost in the league since Hiddink took over, isn't that a significant improvement?

They've stabilised but don't feel to me that they've immediately reverted back to the form and aura of emphatic league champions - which is where they were just under a year ago

 

[Tubey]

They've stabilised but don't feel to me that they've immediately reverted back to the form and aura of emphatic league champions - which is where they were just under a year ago

... but they haven't lost. That's not a coincidence - the players are suddenly performing for a manager and in a system they believe in.

 

[whiteshadow]

They've stabilised but don't feel to me that they've immediately reverted back to the form and aura of emphatic league champions - which is where they were just under a year ago

True, although they've been steadily climbing the table. I think they'll spend a fair bit of money in the summer and prob be competing at the top again next season.

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

... but they haven't lost. That's not a coincidence - the players are suddenly performing for a manager and in a system they believe in.

So are we advocating a down tools approach to oust Martinez and revert to the form of 2013/14 / the Moyes days?

 

[ToffeeDoug]

If hes making insane comments when the pressure is quite low imagine what it would be like with fans shouting martinez out. Hed be a blubbering school child

He'll be going "and after everything I have done for you"

 

[ToffeeDoug]

In the world outside football, if a listed company had a share price a couple of years ago of £4 and now it was £2, the CEO, assuming of course he was actually still in his job, would be trying to impress analysts with a fully comprehensive turnaround plan.

Where's our CEO's (aka RM) turnaround plan.......stick your head in the sand and hope to god Lukaku keeps scoring?

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

This would be helped if there was an obvious replacement for Roberto. I guess we'd like to have Pellegrini or Mourinho? There are so many managers who are unpopular for one reason or another. Brendan Rogers is available but wouldn't be popular because he managed Liverpool, Moyes, unfairly, is unpopular because of comments made post his exit (down to his media ineptitude rather than real malice intended) and coming back to poach players (common tactic of managers when they move)

We have more money now so should be going for a top calibre manager. Newcastle attracted Benitez - we should be getting someone with better pedigree than that

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

This would be helped if there was an obvious replacement for Roberto. I guess we'd like to have Pellegrini or Mourinho? There are so many managers who are unpopular for one reason or another. Brendan Rogers wouldn't be popular because he managed Liverpool

Brendan Rodgers wouldn't be popular because he's a chump mate