Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[davek]

Hey David are you looking forward to us ripping those hoofball simpletons Leicester apart on Saturday like we did in December? I can't wait mate

Yes, I am. It doesn't sound like you are though.

 

[jazzy]

De Boer? Yes, ok mate Im listening. What's he done besides win a two horse race in Holland?

It is a misconception that the Eredivisie is like the German league where only one of two teams can win it. Just look at the list of teams winning it in the last 10 years.

De Boer won the league for Ajaz after a fallow perid for them playing attractive football and introducing a lot of home grown talent.

But if you are correct then by your yardstick we should not employ Klopp , Tuechel or Guardiola.

 

[efcjames]

Thank God this reset

 

[Steve Wigan]

Pellegrini is interested according to Esk

Just watched Pellegrini sitting watching his team play mostly sideways football, with the 49 million Sterling contributing less than Niasse on a bad day. Didn't see him once give the team a shout in an effort to motivate them, so he's not for Everton, in my opinion. We need an enthusiast, dare I say it, like Klopp but without the embarrassing madness. There have been 'good' moments in the last two years...we have literally switched off since beating Chelsea in the cup. Interesting summer ahead, because despite the votes on forums, its the board/Moshiri who will make the decisions, and they have the advantage of being 'insiders'. Lots of subsequently winning managers who have been very close to the sack, and yet found one game which turned everything round, but I can't see this happening with Roberto, unfortunately. Neither Bill or Moshiri have been associated with much if any sacking of managers in the past, so booting RM would be a totally new experience for them. In his core business, Bill is known as the toughest of negotiators but he is also loyal and sentimental. Despite of The Esks reportage, and with respect to what he says, I personally do not feel that a decision has yet been made re RM. By the way, what was the big Evertonian gesture that Jon Wood was supposed to have made on Friday? As I have said before, JW will always vote with Bill...they are very close friends and supporters of each other...that's from an impeccable source, and if JW did not support Bill in a board meeting, it would be the first time this has happened.

 

[BoysInBlue]

The much vaunted away form -

5 away wins this season - the same number as at home.

In David Moyes 2nd worst season at Everton, out of his 11 seasons managing us (2005/2006, when we finished 11th), Moyes managed to win 6 league aways.

So spare us the mythical 'Martinez great away form' stuff.

 

[Groucho]

Obviously that is not the reason why he needs to go.

22 wins in 73 PL matches since the start of last season and worst home record with 8 defeats are the main reasons.

I'm still alive mate, just checking in.

Have I missed something here?

 

[quasi modo]

How about you answering some questions @davek ?

On what basis do you believe Martinez is the right man to progress the club next season?
In a highly competitive transfer market what qualities does Martinez possess to attract the highest talents?
What should Martinez do differently next season than this?
Given his resistance to change, how would you persuade Martinez to take on board those changes and effect them?

His basis will be 72 points and 2 semi finals.

 

[toffee matt]

How about you answering some questions @davek ?

On what basis do you believe Martinez is the right man to progress the club next season?
In a highly competitive transfer market what qualities does Martinez possess to attract the highest talents?
What should Martinez do differently next season than this?
Given his resistance to change, how would you persuade Martinez to take on board those changes and effect them?

Suspect we'll be waiting a long time..

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

The poll should have visible identities as there must be few rawk lurkers in that 9 ffs

 

[DanEFC92]

Dayvek scolded many posters for coming into this thread moaning about the manager after a defeat, saying it was reactionary, knee-jerky.

He then goes off into hiding after a horrendous run. And returns to us after a wee win against Bournemouth.

 

[joey_macmo]

It is a misconception that the Eredivisie is like the German league where only one of two teams can win it. Just look at the list of teams winning it in the last 10 years.

De Boer won the league for Ajaz after a fallow perid for them playing attractive football and introducing a lot of home grown talent.

But if you are correct then by your yardstick we should not employ Klopp , Tuechel or Guardiola.

Oh no mate he already ridiculed Tuchel when that was put to him last year.

 

[Thomasc]

43% win rate (third highest in Everton managerial history)
Top PL points record.

That's why he doesn't deserve to leave.

But that was all down to his first season obviously for gods sake.

You have just been told how many games we have won in the two seasons since, are you too dense to take that on board man?

 

[ianefc]

Dayvek scolded many posters for coming into this thread moaning about the manager after a defeat, saying it was reactionary, knee-jerky.

He then goes off into hiding after a horrendous run. And returns to us after a wee win against Bournemouth.

lollol

I hope that is just coincidence. If not it shows what he thinks of the club and the expectation upon it.

 

[Mayz]

You have little sense of our recent history if you class this season as a catastrophe. Then again, it seems to be de rigueur to describe every single action of the pre Moshiri Martinez era as a slump. It's just lazy nonsense.

PL form has tumbled and needs to be addressed. There is every indication that a manager like Martinez who is good with transfer dealings would use that well to get us back where he had us in season one.

As said though, this new manager: you will review his progress at next season's end and declare it a failure if he hasn't used an enormous amount of cash to reach CL football or at least surpassed Martinez's record total of points...wont you?

O no here we go again.... Yawn

 

[davek]

How about you answering some questions @davek ?

On what basis do you believe Martinez is the right man to progress the club next season?
In a highly competitive transfer market what qualities does Martinez possess to attract the highest talents?
What should Martinez do differently next season than this?
Given his resistance to change, how would you persuade Martinez to take on board those changes and effect them?

...well given that you wont properly back up your assertion that we'll get a top class manager it probably is time for someone to answer a question or two.

Martinez has our best ever PL campaign without spending the hundreds of millions apparently coming the way of our new "top class" manager from this summer. Only a fool would doubt that he couldn't use that cash to great effect.

In a highly competitive transfer market he could attract as much as any of the dodgy top class managers on your list thus far. Koeman and De Boer have no pedigree in signing top end of the market players, yet you'd let either have the key to the manager's office at Goodison and Moshiri's bank account.

Next season Martinez should place more faith in even greater numbers of younger players coming in and use whatever cash he can muster to buy a top class replacement for Lukaku and and world class goal keeper - something we haven't had since Southall - and run out the club the likes of Baines and Jagielka.