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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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I've come to terms with the fact that he's staying until the end of the season.

I think it is quite embarrassing to still have him in charge, but if he wasn't sacked after that humilliation at the pit, or after the FA Cup semi-final, I think it's pretty clear that he's not leaving until the end of the season for whatever reason.

Fairly confident he won't stay beyond that anyway, so just going to enjoy watching a few of the youngsters get more game time and ignore his presence and pre/post-match interviews.
 

jceverton said:
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with most of what you said, but it's worth a debate. I agree with you that he changed the mindset when he first came and that was a positive move and yes there was a feeling that we could go and compete with anyone. The high point for that was the way we played against Man United and Arsenal away within a short period of time. However I think that view has generally declined based on what's happened over the last two seasons. This season for instance we haven't beaten any team in the top 6 home or away, and the two occasions we've met a top 6 team in the cup we've been knocked out. We've also been stuffed 4-0 by Liverpool twice and let's be honest in both of them it could have been more.

The prospective top managers is for me down to a couple of things and 90% nothing to do with Martinez. Firstly there is a lot more money in the league and this has evened out the competition. The old top 4 order has been smashed to pieces this season. Pelligrini made this point in an interview a few weeks back when he was stating this was one of the reasons he'd like to stay managing in England. This makes the Premier League a much more attractive place to come and manage, as you can potentially do very well and challenge for the league without managing the likes of Man City, Chelsea. Hence we've seen an influx of some top quality managers like Klopp and Benitez. Secondly we've actually got an owner now who is wealthy and ambitious. This makes us a much more attractive club to manage. I will give you 10% because we've got some good young players which also makes us attractive to come to. For example Lukaku is a top striker and if the new manager can persuade him to stay for another year that's an added attraction but it's a big if at the minute.
Finally I'm not sure he really is a very classy guy. On the plus side there's the stuff with Kendall and the way he handled the Stones bid. On the negative side he always seems to be looking for an excuse which isn't related to him, he's bombed a few players out of the team because of comments/disagreements and claimed they were injured and there's the way he treated Baines. As Ped would say Roberto is all about Roberto and I'm inclined to agree with him.
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Repect your view but disagree with the last part. Lately he has been taking responsibility in interviews and been saying the right things. And the thing with Baines was blown out of proportion, it's not as if he dropped him or fined him, I don't agree with him apologising but that's as far as it went.
 
MoutsGoat said:
Brendan Rodgers spent roughly 300m on players Friend, he was sacked cos he didnt win a bean, despite ALMOST(LOL) winning the League, not quite sure the point.

I mean Wigan likely had a negative net spend when they won the cup, Leicester are currently romping the league after spending less than we spent on Niasse.

They have basically smashed the glass ceiling excuse out the water for every single manager in the league.
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Leicester had a net spend of £30 million this season, so a bit more than Niasse but they've smashed the glass ceiling no doubt about that. Amazing achievement winning the league.
 

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