Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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AaronTheBlue
Player Valuation: £60m
pellegrini would literally be awful for us. He is a older martinez, his style doesn't work in the premier league that effectively and he is still as soft at leaking goals, just at a better team.
de boer, mourinho, fevre best choices.
de boer, mourinho, fevre best choices.
Neiziro
Player Valuation: £25m
Im not too sure about de Boer tbh. He's not proven himself in a top league and even then hasn't won loads (4 league titles yes, but it's a very uncompetitive league, on par with the SPL), plus he has been criticised before for playing a very dour, defensive style of football. He'd get us working hard and would sort out our defense, at least.
Just a nagging doubt about his ability to operate in the Premiership. Managing a top club in a lesser league may not be the experience we need at this particular time. Any change we make now is difficult, Martinez has lowered our stock to be one of those clubs who could become embroiled in relegation struggles if we lose a few of our better players through lack of ambition shown by the club. Is De Boer of a high enough profile to get players to stay.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
I have to agree, Pelligrini's City side are frustrating to watch at times, and lack the intensity that I hope a new man brings to the club.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
But you want him here after two seasons. That is the part that confused me. All your doubts about will still exist then, no?
I would have expected Pelligrini to have rallied our current playing staff, bought a few good players and put us in a much better position than we are in now. That would give someone like Dr Boer a bit of time to settle into a new league and have a bit of wriggle room.
ted45
Player Valuation: £500k
brieverton
Player Valuation: £40m
I get what you're saying there. I would be sceptical though that confirmation of Martinez departure would trigger any decisive move by Utd for Mourinho. Even if it did, we are clear where we stand then as I think most of us would agree there's no way we are getting him if he has the option of us or them. I would rather that became clear sooner rather than later.
Bluntly put, we make him an offer and ask him for an answer within a reasonable timeframe. He can say yes, no, or maybe. Maybe is fine but not for longer than say 72 hours in my opinion. I don't want him here if he would be half arsed about it, or it became clear that he was stalling on an offer in the hope of better.
orly
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In likelihood it looks like De Boer > Pellegrini > Mourinho
Shame as in preference I'd want to see that reversed but still excellent options and massive improvement on the current incumbent
ted45
Player Valuation: £500k
I agree with you, orly. But it's not a bad selection is it?
LADS!
Mountfield seemed the exception, but most of them are employed by the club so there not going to say too much. Spoke to Mountfield a couple of years back and he thought Moyes wasn't good enough. He was desperate to see Everton win the league as a fan because he had only seen it as a player.
Dutch League recent winners.
1998–99 Feyenoord (14) Willem II PSV Eindhoven Ruud van Nistelrooy 31
1999–2000 PSV Eindhoven (15) Heerenveen Feyenoord Ruud van Nistelrooy 29
2000–01 PSV Eindhoven (16) Feyenoord Ajax Mateja Kežman 24
2001–02 Ajax (28) PSV Eindhoven Feyenoord Pierre van Hooijdonk 24
2002–03 PSV Eindhoven (17) Ajax Feyenoord Mateja Kežman 35
2003–04 Ajax (29) PSV Eindhoven Feyenoord Mateja Kežman 31
2004–05 PSV Eindhoven (18) Ajax AZ Alkmaar Dirk Kuyt 29
2005–06 PSV Eindhoven (19) AZ Alkmaar Feyenoord Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 33
2006–07 PSV Eindhoven (20) Ajax AZ Alkmaar Afonso Alves 34
2007–08 PSV Eindhoven (21) Ajax NAC Breda Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 33
2008–09 AZ Alkmaar (2) Twente Ajax Mounir El Hamdaoui 23
2009–10 Twente (1) Ajax PSV Eindhoven Luis Suárez 35
2010–11 Ajax (30) Twente PSV Eindhoven Björn Vleminckx 23
2011–12 Ajax (31) Feyenoord PSV Eindhoven Bas Dost 32
2012–13 Ajax (32) PSV Eindhoven Feyenoord Wilfried Bony 31
2013–14 Ajax (33) Feyenoord Twente Alfreð Finnbogason 29
2014–15 PSV Eindhoven (22) Ajax AZ Alkmaar Memphis Depay 22
SPL recent winners
1998–99 Rangers (48) Celtic St Johnstone Henrik Larsson (Celtic) 29
1999–2000 Rangers (49) Celtic Heart of Midlothian Mark Viduka (Celtic) 25
2000–01 Celtic (37) Rangers Hibernian Henrik Larsson (Celtic) 35
2001–02 Celtic (38) Rangers Livingston Henrik Larsson (Celtic) 29
2002–03 Rangers (50) Celtic Heart of Midlothian Henrik Larsson (Celtic) 28
2003–04 Celtic (39) Rangers Heart of Midlothian Henrik Larsson (Celtic) 30
2004–05 Rangers (51) Celtic Hibernian John Hartson (Celtic) 25
2005–06 Celtic (40) Heart of Midlothian Rangers Kris Boyd (Kilmarnock, Rangers) 32
2006–07 Celtic (41) Rangers Aberdeen Kris Boyd (Rangers) 20
2007–08 Celtic (42) Rangers Motherwell Scott McDonald (Celtic) 25
2008–09 Rangers (52) Celtic Heart of Midlothian Kris Boyd (Rangers) 27
2009–10 Rangers (53) Celtic Dundee United Kris Boyd (Rangers) 23
2010–11 Rangers (54) Celtic Heart of Midlothian Kenny Miller (Rangers) 21
2011–12 Celtic (43) Rangers Motherwell Gary Hooper (Celtic) 24
2012–13 Celtic (44) Motherwell St Johnstone Michael Higdon (Motherwell) 26
2013–14 Celtic (45) Motherwell Aberdeen Kris Commons (Celtic) 27
2014–15 Celtic (46) Aberdeen Inverness Caledonian Thistle Adam Rooney (Aberdeen) 18
So no mate.
Its nothing like the SPL.
dholliday
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Judging by that list it's very similar to the SPL: two clubs dominating the title.
Tho' who's winning the titles isn't relevant to what Neiziro is saying. How are the dutch clubs doing in European competition? Not much better than Celtic have managed...
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