Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[Wat Tyler]

After today's game he has won me over here: 5 year deal please

 

[kithnou]

A manager that terrifies everyone in the league.

Whisper it quietly.

Jose.

That's why I would want him. He'd bring back that mongrel the nancy boy in charge now has taught the playing list to become.
He'd armour the supporter base.

 

[Wat Tyler]

JW has certainly not been in Bill's pocket over Martinez.

The fact he stormed off half an hour to go during the derby is testament to this.

 

[The Mighty Quint]

Surely the buttered side is now Moshiri not Bill?

I know he's a big character, carries a lot of recent history, but actually he's no longer got any power and if as suspected he has backed RM, increasingly less influence. This is not a personal attack on him just looking at the reality of the situation.

I doubt he can even carry the support of Elstone on the board for much longer. Elstone is the only board member dependent upon his current position to earn his living. That being the case Moshiri must be more relevant to Elstone looking forward than Bill is.

The tide is turning for sure, but Bill still has considerable influence and to suggest if push came to shove Woods would side against Bill then I'm not buying that, no matter what you presume to know...

 

[kithnou]

The tide is turning for sure, but Bill still has considerable influence and to suggest if push came to shove Woods would side against Bill then I'm not buying that, no matter what you presume to know...

What's Bill going to do if Mr Moshiri then turns around and as says I'm selling up and out?
Bill is finished. Not risking it all over Roberto Martinez.

 

[a bell maul]

At this stage last season we were also on 44 points. Two seasons, two shipwrecks.
My bleeding eyes and injured loyalty demand succour.
Please let the pain end...

You can say that again. In that time, of the current top 8 in the PL, we have won 5 games out of 32!! Leaving out Soton and West Ham, we've won 1 out of 24!!
Now, I might be an overly demanding supporter, but I reckon those stats tell me Martinez is not much chop.
I appreciate some on here persist in insisting he is the man to take us forward.
With respect to my fellow Evertonians who harbour such view, I would strongly suggest that they are not allowing the facts to intrude on their wishful thinking.

 

[LocalNative]

Hiring the Dutch David Moyes would be a massive, massive mistake.

We've never exactly aimed high for managers like have we? Would be a little disappointed if he was our top target.

 

[The Mighty Quint]

What's Bill going to do if Mr Moshiri then turns around and as says I'm selling up and out?
Bill is finished. Not risking it all over Roberto Martinez.

As if Moshiri would come in hanging his bollocks out from day one, Bill still has major influence, Moshiri is yet to take a controlling stake, I have no dount Moshiri will be the making of this club, but it's early days yet and he does not want to rock the boat this early in the game, everything will come to him in due course...

 

[Wat Tyler]

93% of fans on the biggest everton forum want him out

dont think ive ever seen a more uninamous vote when it comes to a manager

dont even think the likes of remi garde had 93%

Kim Jong Un says hello

 

[The Esk]

What's Bill going to do if Mr Moshiri then turns around and as says I'm selling up and out?
Bill is finished. Not risking it all over Roberto Martinez.

Except mate he's never going to do that. Difficult I know as he's not disclosed anything in public but he's heavily committed to Everton. Bill and Jon are history, just a question of seeing out the agreements.

Similarly employees not coming up to Moshiri's standards will find their relationship with Everton coming to an end, just takes a little time.

 

[Wat Tyler]

Simeone has never managed in England, so there must be an element of risk with him.

Yer we should be aiming higher (blows brains out)

 

[KUEFC09U2]

Will all be over soon enough

 

[kithnou]

As if Moshiri would come in hanging his bollocks out from day one, Bill still has major influence, Moshiri is yet to take a controlling stake, I have no dount Moshiri will be the making of this club, but it's early days yet and he does not want to rock the boat this early in the game, everything will come to him in due course...

Except mate he's never going to do that. Difficult I know as he's not disclosed anything in public but he's heavily committed to Everton. Bill and Jon are history, just a question of seeing out the agreements.

Similarly employees not coming up to Moshiri's standards will find their relationship with Everton coming to an end, just takes a little time.

That was a hypothetical comment from me to indicate Bill is not going to go and rock the Moshiri boat over Roberto Martinez.
And he is done.

 

[deipnosophist]

You can say that again. In that time, of the current top 8 in the PL, we have won 5 games out of 32!! Leaving out Soton and West Ham, we've won 1 out of 24!!
Now, I might be an overly demanding supporter, but I reckon those stats tell me Martinez is not much chop.
I appreciate some on here persist in insisting he is the man to take us forward.
With respect to my fellow Evertonians who harbour such view, I would strongly suggest that they are not allowing the facts to intrude on their wishful thinking.

I would be interested in hearing from @mkrudden. He's generally pretty savvy on his football , so I'm wondering whether he still considers Roberto the "man to take us forward".

 

[blueblue]

Surely the buttered side is now Moshiri not Bill?

I know he's a big character, carries a lot of recent history, but actually he's no longer got any power and if as suspected he has backed RM, increasingly less influence. This is not a personal attack on him just looking at the reality of the situation.

I doubt he can even carry the support of Elstone on the board for much longer. Elstone is the only board member dependent upon his current position to earn his living. That being the case Moshiri must be more relevant to Elstone looking forward than Bill is.

On a much more basic level, the board had to watch that game today, the derby, half a dozen other aimless performances since Christmas alone.
They will know that it isn't close to being good enough. Bill Kenwright will know that it isn't good enough. He has always been very loyal , but it is gone beyond that and I am sure he knows that now.