Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[bluewally]

Good to see, but a few admitted that it's a win win tomorrow.

How shameful is that, quarter final of the FA cup and deep inside of them they would be happy at a defeat.

I won't be happy if we don't win. Unfortunately that means I havent been happy much recently.

I'd be lying if I said that if we lose the depression cloud wouldn't be tinged with a small silver lining but it's not the priority once the ball kicks off.

COYB

 

[ijjysmith]

I can't beleive that some people want us to lose just to see the manager sacked. Terrible time this.

I'm no fan of the boss but I always want us to win no matter what.

Hang your heads blues. Hang your heads.

At least Moshiri seems Fabric.

 

[eddy]

Just read what Moshiri has to say in the programme. Great football and good luck for the game against Chelsea.

He has only been with the club a few weeks and he is more of an Evertonian than quite a few of you on here!! You know, the ones that want us to get beat tomorrow so Martinez gets sacked. The ones that wanted the likes of Benitez or turncoat Moyes to manage us again.

Hang your heads in shame and don't even watch the game tomorrow, leave that the true blues who want us to win.

I lost faith in Martinez a while back but I want us to win! Martinez is deluded in my opinion. I also think the players have lost faith in his
philosophy. None of this means I want us to lose, I want us to win, even if we win ugly, a win is a win, Martinez does not get this, he thinks we have to win with flair, and style. Sometimes we are great to watch its exciting, but even 3 nil up we all know we are vulnerable and gasping for the ref to blow the whistle.
He has 10 games to string a few wins together, if not `mutual `agreement in the summer I feel

 

[bluewally]

I can't beleive that some people want us to lose just to see the manager sacked. Terrible time this.

I'm no fan of the boss but I always want us to win no matter what.

Hang your heads blues. Hang your heads.

At least Moshiri seems Fabric.

Speaking of fabric, this stance appears to be fabricated, I haven't seen anyone actually say that

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

There is a problem there though mate. He uses his team to push in to attacking positions to help aid his forward play. In particular the full backs. A defensive coach would put a stop to this, and then you have to ask who is actually in charge? The defensive coach who wants certain players in certain positions to cut off space if the move breaks down, or to create a solid base, or the manager who wants those players further up the pitch to support his attack?

I'm not sure it's it'd be a healthy working environment for either of them, as Martinez' style as a manager is at odds with a solid defence.

It depends on how he views the situation

If he gets in someone that he trusts and he's prepared to listen to, there shouldn't be an issue

I don't think the club should force this decision on him, because it'll probably end up as you fear

My hope is that he puts eyes on himself, realises his weakness and then proactively does something about it

I can but hope

 

[ijjysmith]

Speaking of fabric, this stance appears to be fabricated, I haven't seen anyone actually say that

#NotFabric

 

[Khalekan]

Just read what Moshiri has to say in the programme. Great football and good luck for the game against Chelsea.

He has only been with the club a few weeks and he is more of an Evertonian than quite a few of you on here!! You know, the ones that want us to get beat tomorrow so Martinez gets sacked. The ones that wanted the likes of Benitez or turncoat Moyes to manage us again.

Hang your heads in shame and don't even watch the game tomorrow, leave that the true blues who want us to win.

Yip......I must say the calls for the FSW and The Moyesiah to take over have been deafening....

Shame on you hundreds of people have been posting in favour of the Deadly Duo

 

[BlueToff]

Good to see, but a few admitted that it's a win win tomorrow.

How shameful is that, quarter final of the FA cup and deep inside of them they would be happy at a defeat.

Even more baffling when it wouldn't result in him being sacked anyway... some people are really just determined to believe because they think it it will happen.

Got to say though @bluewally and a few others aren't of that ilk

 

[BlueToff]

Speaking of fabric, this stance appears to be fabricated, I haven't seen anyone actually say that

There was definitely one poster on here the other day mate who used the term 'win win'. There's been a few others as well saying things to similar affect.

 

[Igrok]

Defense is always about the system, mechanism, organization...never about individual player...

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

I can't beleive that some people want us to lose just to see the manager sacked. Terrible time this.

I'm no fan of the boss but I always want us to win no matter what.

Hang your heads blues. Hang your heads.

At least Moshiri seems Fabric.

Where has anyone actually said this? I haven't seen it in the slightest.

Just because you don't think Martinez is not the right person to take us forward, doesn't mean that you want the team to lose. Don't buy into that argument at all and i haven't seen people suggesting it (except for one or two trying to paint people who question martinez's abilities).

 

[ijjysmith]

Where has anyone actually said this? I haven't seen it in the slightest.

Just because you don't think Martinez is not the right person to take us forward, doesn't mean that you want the team to lose. Don't buy into that argument at all and i haven't seen people suggesting it (except for one or two trying to paint people who question martinez's abilities).

Oh, if you've not seen it then it must not be happening.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

Oh, if you've not seen it then it must not be happening.

Nice one for the sarcy reply, I am asking where anyone has been saying this - and stated i haven't seen it.

Didn't say it wasn't happening. FFS

 

[Little Ralphy]

Oh, if you've not seen it then it must not be happening.

Post a few quotes then mate. It's the age old if you say something often enough then it must be true. That's what people are trying to do. Much like the RM cut Wigan's budget by 100% every year he was there, as the reason they went down.

 

[willo30]

I can't beleive that some people want us to lose just to see the manager sacked. Terrible time this.

I'm no fan of the boss but I always want us to win no matter what.

Hang your heads blues. Hang your heads.

At least Moshiri seems Fabric.

I don't think they do mate but it's rather some peoples assumption that if you don't support Bobby then you don't support Everton.

I've been supporting us over 40 years and never have a seen one man cause such a divide in the fan base. Don't mean just online but this is in work, in the pub, family etc.