Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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Fifty years of watching them and this prick has me considering for next year. Do your duty Mosh
No question whatsoever. Once that final whistle of the last game goes, the axe should fall. Cup or no cup, it's been 18 months of pure awfulness. It's sad to see some accepting this level
larrygobfiend
Player Valuation: £40m
I'm blaming the players today... They were hopeless.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Because he got 72 points ages ago. Because that's logically sound
Toast
Player Valuation: £80m
When i go the match, i honestly don't know whats going to happen.
We could be boss or utter gash.
There is no middle ground this season.
If we got proper turned over at Wembley, the rest of the season will be toxic in the extreme.
We could also go and smash anyone.. its so frustrating.
But lets not pretend were not all a little bit worried about the performances right now.
rochdaleblue
Player Valuation: £50m
Not when you get kenwright calling him a 'great manager' last week. His comments regarding Martinez are as bad as the stuff Martinez normally churns out. Even Ronnie goodlass on merseyside was hinting about Martinez not learning from past mistakes. Normally you don't get ex players criticising the manager, but everyone can see the man is totally out of his depth. Let's hope moshiri sees this and ignores his 'good friend' kenwright and gets shut. Even an FA cup victory should not be enough to save him.
Thank you Bryan. Too kind, I am sure - especially as I am as emotional as they come. I don't think I've ever called for the manager's head in 40 odd years of following Everton (though after Boro (0-3) I was mightily relieved we got rid of Walter) - and, to be fair, I am not doing that now - INSTEAD I'm suggesting it's time to move on, politely - merely expressing an opinion that - right now and for some time - Roberto hasn't been good enough and has missed the boat. There is definitely a case for both defence and prosecution:
On the defence side - our luck has been unreal - Swansea away, Bournemouth away (and coasting), Norwich (away), Leicester (I'm sure they conned the ref three times), Stoke (hmm, dodgy pen), Chelsea (miles offside), West Brom (home, unreal bad luck), West Ham (lumped it in the box late on, but some poor substitutions - what is this Niasse signing?).. also City away semi and the Sterling cross for their goal..
On the other hand we've still wasted away loads of points, loads of good performances where we shouldn't be bitching about bad reffing, bad timekeeping and then today - it was pathetic. The side he picked wasn't up for it - didn't get stuck in, didn't mark properly, barely threatened in the 30 odd minutes we might have got an equaliser and weren't much better after the break, the substitutions were ineffective - Delo has been sidelined for weeks, Mirallas has a strop all season (for whatever reason, you tell me), Osman (and, who knows, Pienaar?) overlooked for Tom the Workhorse - whatever else Ossie is, old, slow, easily dispossessed sometimes, he can be relied upon to find 3-4 decent passes and maybe a shot or two every game and might have had more offensive power to the side in the absence of Mirallas... Stones has lost it - whether that's his head or down to the boss, I don't know. Oviedo is apparently ill, Baines too fragile, Macca isn't the player he used to be, Besic is trying to be the smartass top player he wants to be but fails - e.g. points the pass to Lukaku and then fails to lob the defender... and he's too injury prone. Howard - well that's just another story of fading powers and a manager who was too loyal.
So, yeah, time to start thinking about making the changes. Perhaps Moshi is a progressive sort.
LAToffee
Player Valuation: £20m
Stop this type of counter factual analysis of hypothetical scenarios. It's not illuminating. Let's try to figure out reality not the reality you've dreamed up.
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
It is appetently.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Where we finished 3 seasons ago doesn't matter a jot.
Since then we've gone backwards for 2 years.
He's therefore failed in 2 of his 3 years in the job, it's not good enough, he's not good enough, it's that simple
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Lads. Honest to God, everyone wanted better home form this season, it is NOT good to see the home form shambles.
Howver, a midtable position and two cup runs to at least the SF spots and some are believing that gets you the sack!
Sorry, give your heads a wobble. Not happening. Your favourite hacks and 'experts' might provide you with some comfort and an echo chamber for your prejudices, but no one at Evetton FC are pulling triggers over that season record....and it could get much better in the FA Cup.
That ^^^ needs to be accepted.
Howver, a midtable position and two cup runs to at least the SF spots and some are believing that gets you the sack!
Sorry, give your heads a wobble. Not happening. Your favourite hacks and 'experts' might provide you with some comfort and an echo chamber for your prejudices, but no one at Evetton FC are pulling triggers over that season record....and it could get much better in the FA Cup.
That ^^^ needs to be accepted.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Did you give them the credit for last week? Or was that all Martinez?
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
We couldn't. We could go and smash the absolute dross of the league, unfortunately we've not got many of those teams left to play
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
TBF that's happening all over the gaff. Someone has already said 'win the 2 games in hand we're 8th' as if it's that easy.
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