Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[Lanolin]

Spurs are the only team to concede fewer away goals than us.

We've lost fewer away games than any other team in the league.

Stoke were only a point behind United at the start of today. They've beaten City, United and Chelsea at the Brittania and held Arsenal.

Bournemouth beat United and Chelsea after drawing with us.

West Brom have beaten United and Arsenal at the Hawthorns.

Southampton whooped Arsenal 4-0 at St Mary's and have also beaten Liverpool and West Ham there as well as denying Leicester 3 points.

If we were that badly organised our away form would be as bad as our home form.

Is that just an assortment of randomly arranged sentences or is there a point I'm missing somewhere? I can't quite work out what you're saying.

 

[Tubey]

*coughs* 72 points *coughs* 5th place....or was that with the aid of a few managerial skills Moyes left behind?

Nope, just the defence and pragmatic mindset that has since been drilled out of them.

 

[davek]

O'keefe, Scott, McNulty, Custis, Cross, Collymore, Savage, Green, Fletcher, Barton, Durham, Merson, Barton, King, Barrett, Prentice. Have all had well documented and accurate Digs at him in the past few months, our own chairman has even had to come out and publicly defend him, was that because of Fans forum pressure? Or because of the media criticisms? I'd suggest the latter, something must have forced Kenwrights hand. Even you @davek aren't as forcful as you once were, although that's because Martinez has individually unloaded your gun, then taken it off you, then given you a potato gun (metaphorical nonsense).

Martinez is getting away with it because of 2 things the cup run and all the stuff that's gone on at other clubs such as City/Pep, UTD/LVG, Liverpool/Irish Martinez, Spurs potentially winning the league, Leicester potentially winning the league and your standard Arsenal fan Wenger fume.

Don't dismiss Evertonians angst at Martinez because it hasn't had much media attention yet every time a public figure speaks out against him you go on to slander said public figure without any regard for the content of the criticism.

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Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Are you actually citing the views of those ball bags as a case for dismissing an Everton manager?

They are nobheads who trash anything and anyone who move in football...even Mourinho they were calling a failure.

FFS mate. Try again. Lol.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Dave is the Skip Bayless to Martinez's Tim Tebow sometimes

Skip always brings up that 2011 playoff run

 

[The Esk]

*coughs* 72 points *coughs* 5th place....or was that with the aid of a few managerial skills Moyes left behind?

The evidence suggests that Martinez alone cannot achieve these levels, some of that years performance must be attributed to what he inherited. If he'd achieved that in his second year then no argument, but he did not, and now in his third season he's a long way from that level.

 

[GwladysBlue]

*coughs* 72 points *coughs* 5th place....or was that with the aid of a few managerial skills Moyes left behind?

Moyes finished 5th x 2 and 4th X1 and also finished 6th x2.

He was also robbed of 5th place due to an inept referee ruling out James Vaughan's last minute winning goal at Chelsea on the final game of the season for nothing.

You can't argue one point and then completely ignore another.

Your whole argument is based on one season, which was two years ago that is the anomaly throughout his entire career.

 

[ianefc]

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Are you actually citing the views of those ball bags as a case for dismissing an Everton manager?

They are nobheads who trash anything and anyone who move in football...even Mourinho they were calling a failure.

FFS mate. Try again. Lol.

were they. My mistake if that's true I take it all back.

Is there anyone from the world of football journalism/punditry who you would accept criticism of Martinez from? Just so I know.

 

[GwladysBlue]

jesus effing christ

It somehow seems worse when you see that stat in black and white.

 

[AlexEFC92]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...to-martinez-heading-unwanted-history-11068944

We have the second worst home record in the WHOLE of Europe. Only Troyes in France are worse.

How can anybody in their right mind defend him?!

This, it truly baffles me how A. People defend him and B. He is still in charge

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I'm begging for some balance in this thread

 

[edge]

How many away wins have we had against teams in the current top 8?

We only have one team above us WBA who have less away wins, but its held up as something to hang your hat on if your a bobby fan.

 

[GwladysBlue]

This, it truly baffles me how A. People defend him and B. He is still in charge

Even more worrying that the chairman says 'what a manager!'

No wonder the Kenwright years have been the most barren in Everton's history if they're the standards he sets.

 

[TheFinnFan]

he needs a fa cup win to save his job i quess...

 

[roydo]

*coughs* 72 points *coughs* 5th place....or was that with the aid of a few managerial skills Moyes left behind?

As time goes by, it is becoming obvious that maybe, yes.

 

[JonnyFitz]

I'm begging for some balance in this thread

I'm begging for some balance between attack and defence