You what? Distin still needs to be replaced. We need at least one of our CB's to have that pace and power if we are going to bomb forward our full backs.
He was never the best footballer, but you can't teach pace and power. We sorely miss him.
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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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You what? Distin still needs to be replaced. We need at least one of our CB's to have that pace and power if we are going to bomb forward our full backs.
He was never the best footballer, but you can't teach pace and power. We sorely miss him.
<------- that's you that is.Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Good job then DM was not manager when we just played Arsenal, half the team or more would have been dropped!
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
different management style to Martinez. who's to say that hasn't helped him become the player he is.
I would think that consistently telling someone they are phenomenal doesnt give any incentive to improve
Yes, everybody in footballs rich tapestry remembers the cup runners up and the semi finalists. After all, it's such an amazing feat
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Perhaps to induce an incentive, the wording should be changed to Ultra Phenomenal.
Difference between Moyes and Martinez is, Martinez said Barkley is a young lad who is going to make mistakes, and he should be allowed to make those mistakes and learn from them, think that has more to do with the player Barkley is now, rather than being hung out to dry by Moyes after one mistake.
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
Or was he protected by Moyes after one mistake.
Ross was a lot more immature then. It's a point of view. Martinez may be right. Moyes may be right. Who knows.
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
Yes, everybody in footballs rich tapestry remembers the cup runners up and the semi finalists. After all, it's such an amazing feat
We'll agree to disagree mate, but think we can both agree Barkley is boss?
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Selective quoting there. I don't know why people keep phrasing these issues as though they are not Martinez's problem: 'We need at least one of our CBs to have pace and power' 'Yarmolenko wasn't available' 'Barry would be rotated but there's no one else in the squad to do that role'. A whole raft of excuses as to why something can't work or won't work yet. The answer to all of these is 'Martinez, as manager, find a way'.
He moves Distin on and buys Funes Mori? Any lack of pace that may now be lacking is entirely of his own making. He asks his full backs to attack even though he hasn't got the CBs to play that way? A problem entirely of his own making. Everton fail to seal the deal with Yarmolenko? Going two seasons with horrific left side options is not an acceptable response, identify different targets, use the squad options like Pienaar and Mirallas better. It is not ok just to wash his hands of the whole thing and stick Kone out there then Cleverley. No one else can do Barry's role? Play a different way, or stop buying midfielders like Besic and Cleverley who don't play that way. Again it's not ok for the team to fall apart if Barry misses a game. It is negligent weak management that refuses to take responsibility. He's lucky he has elements of the fan base that agree with his own view that none of our current problem is down to him.
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
I'm not disagreeing with you. Just impossible to judge hypotheticals.
Yes he is boss and they both had influence on him and his career.
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
But Martinez more.
ha who knows
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
He was also starting in his preferred position at the Emirates and WHL as a teenager in a top 4 chasing side. How many teenagers do we currently have playing in out 12th placed side?
How many academy graduates that have come through the system has Martinez given game time to? The answer is 1, Browning who came in to cover Colemans injury then was dropped straight away.
Moyes gave debuts to Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley, Baxter, Vaughan, Anichebe all as young teenagers of 16 or 17. How many 16 or 17 year olds has Martinez blooded?
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