Roberto Martinez discussion

[sageyefc]

That's not the point. The point is that the notion that Martinez's comments were gobbledegook was way out.

Sorry but this whole issue is a slight on roberto, he's chatting utter bubbles and is being dangerously stubborn

 

[davek]

coleman and jagielka arent young and inexperienced though. fair enough jagielka is injured now. howard makes our back 4 more nervous so i dont know how he contributes to settling them down.

...as said below, Barrett was trying to state it was a bizarre logical proposition. It wasn't. He's just trying to be clever...which is pretty much impossible for him.

Hows the sales of 'They Dared To Dream' going soft lad?

Lol

 

[mightymoyes]

The feller's an idiot. He can speak English pretty fluently, it's just that he talks utter tosh.

roberto?

 

[Saint Domingo]

Looking forward to Sunday, I think we can win comfortably if we get our tempo right at the start. We must be due an early goal/pen/opposition mistake at some point. If we can get a good win I think we'll get on a roll.

 

[Connor]

Fan of Roberto and that but he's getting it completely wrong with Howard.

He offers nothing anymore and Martinez has to see that.

 

[Nymzee]

Looking forward to Sunday, I think we can win comfortably if we get our tempo right at the start. We must be due an early goal/pen/opposition mistake at some point. If we can get a good win I think we'll get on a roll.

You can sit on the loo for the first 30 minutes at Goodison and you aren't go back to your seat with good news.

 

[toffeejack]

I don't see why we didn't attack both Liverpool and United though? They were both very much beatable. I'd say our performance against Liverpool was criminal given the circumstances. The likes of City at home, Arsenal away, fair enough, you don't mind being cautious, but United's back line is dodgy and Liverpool's whole team is dodgy. Rather see us set up to win a game and lose 3-2 than set up not to lose and get smashed 3-0 anyway.

i think the whole united game was a write-off - with the sombre atmosphere we'd lost it before the game even kicked off. Sometimes teams react well to a death of a legend and the whole place has a sense of "let's do it for him" - but not when it happens a couple of hours earlier.

we were pretty dominant in the second half vs liverpool without being overly attacking. we did go for the win, but when do we ever play brilliantly in a derby? They sort of brought us down to their level with numerous cynical fouls ala lucas.

 

[kithnou]

Fan of Roberto and that but he's getting it completely wrong with Howard.

He offers nothing anymore and Martinez has to see that.

Stevie Wonder sees it. He's not blind mate.

 

[toffeejack]

Tony Barrett
@TonyBarretTimes
Martinez on criticism of Tim Howard's form: "His role on the pitch is much more important than his individual performance."

what does that even mean? he could write a book on talking nonsense

the only thing i can think of is because of the lack of experience elsewhere. about 8 or 9 of the team are youngsters. with jagielka out injured, we only have him and barry as experience and as leaders. quite how much of a leader quiet howard is is beyond me.

i think that's what he's probably alluding to.

 

[Saint Domingo]

i think the whole united game was a write-off - with the sombre atmosphere we'd lost it before the game even kicked off. Sometimes teams react well to a death of a legend and the whole place has a sense of "let's do it for him" - but not when it happens a couple of hours earlier.

we were pretty dominant in the second half vs liverpool without being overly attacking. we did go for the win, but when do we ever play brilliantly in a derby? They sort of brought us down to their level with numerous cynical fouls ala lucas.

Don't get many chances to smash Liverpool. Rodgers has had some of the poorest Liverpool sides in prem history but we bottle it every time. The 13/14 home performance gave me hope (despite the usual bottling job at the end), but since then the Derby performances have been a disgrace with the one st Goodison last season the worst one I have ever seen. Three defensive mids at home, and played for 0-0 from the first minute to the last. Had one shot in the 93rd minute. Even worse than some of the beatings we've taken just seeing us accepting our inferiority so openly.

 

[neil999]

Stevie Wonder sees it. He's not blind mate.

stevie wonder is definitely blind mate

 

[By god I'm blue]

All this waffle means sod all if we don't beat Sunderland on Sunday.

If we don't I will be ready to accept that something is fundamentally wrong at the club and things will need looking at.

Here's hoping for 3 points, him picking the right side to do the job and having them mentally and as physically prepared for a home win as possible.

 

[Saint Domingo]

All this waffle means sod all if we don't beat Sunderland on Sunday.

If we don't I will be ready to accept that something is fundamentally wrong at the club and things will need looking at.

Here's hoping for 3 points, him picking the right side to do the job and having them mentally and as physically prepared for a home win as possible.

This is it for me, I want to see us come out, on the front foot showing that we're the better side trying to score early. If we come out looking like we're doing a passing drill and might take a look at the goal on the second half then I'll tear my hair out.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

All this waffle means sod all if we don't beat Sunderland on Sunday.

If we don't I will be ready to accept that something is fundamentally wrong at the club and things will need looking at.

Here's hoping for 3 points, him picking the right side to do the job and having them mentally and as physically prepared for a home win as possible.

Surely you're not going to base your opinion of whether Martinez is doing a good or bad job on one game?

 

[Walken]

Different week, different excuse for picking howard, i doubt our lying manager even believes it himself