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vagant59 said:
Good post. Martinez has certainly gone up in my estimation recently having shown he is man enough to change things when he has been wrong. It is also satisfying to know that there are some on here with enough knowledge and wisdom of football to have seen his errors before he did, and were not afraid to speak out. If everyone had as balanced a view as you this thread would not have 1960 pages
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I genuinely couldn't agree more mate - excellent post
 
vagant59 said:
Good post. Martinez has certainly gone up in my estimation recently having shown he is man enough to change things when he has been wrong. It is also satisfying to know that there are some on here with enough knowledge and wisdom of football to have seen his errors before he did, and were not afraid to speak out. If everyone had as balanced a view as you this thread would not have 1960 pages
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Another one does a 180 degree. Welcome aboard mate.

Thank God we can kick those fickle polls into touch.
 
davek said:
Another one does a 180 degree. Welcome aboard mate.

Thank God we can kick those fickle polls into touch.
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Is that your roundabout way of saying you can see and agree with the faults Martinez had and you are grateful that their are a good number on here that could see them. Keep reading my posts son you will learn allot
 


Massive month for him this IMHO,comes through it and he's on his way to hero worship with the fanbase,things go array and the writings on the wall,that's the fine margins of football management though I suppose.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football...nited-swansea-fa-cup-everton?CMP=share_btn_tw

In 2013 he went to the World Cup on the back of impressive performances as a loanee at Doncaster Rovers, whom he helped to the League One title, and with high hopes of breaking into the Everton first team. But that was also the summer in which Roberto Martínez arrived at Goodison Park to replace David Moyes, under whom Lundstram had seemed poised to make a breakthrough.

“When David Moyes was at Everton I was in the squad and with the first team and doing really well but as soon as he left it just wasn’t the same for me,” says Lundstram without bitterness. “It’s a game of opinions and I wasn’t involved in the first team as much as I’d have liked under Martínez. I was meant to go on a pre-season tour with the first team when I came back from Doncaster and then, a couple of days before that, I got taken off the squad list to go and I was never told why. That knocked my confidence a bit and little things like that set me back a bit. Then I had to go on loan to Yeovil.”
Yeovil were bottom of the Championship and their style did not suit a player whose main quality is his expansive passing. “It wasn’t the right club because we never had the ball,” he says, raising an issue that affects many young players’ development: in three years as a professional at Everton he went to five different clubs on loan and wishes he had been more assertive about his moves. “If I had my time again, I’d have more say in where I went and would say ‘no’ to some things. But I was just trying to please the manager and saying ‘yes, yes, yes’ all the time.”

When his contract expired at Goodison last summer Everton offered him a six-month deal but this time he did say no. “I didn’t feel it was worth wasting any more time, so I just wanted to get out there and start playing first-team football regularly – and not on loan for once. It definitely makes a difference being permanent. You just feel much more part of things.”
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Duffy, McAleny, Lundstram...

what are your thoughts @Mikey_Fitzgerald
 

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