Roberto Martinez discussion

[paulbefc]

I mentioned earlier. It may not be the case that Martinez is 'Defensively Clueless' it may and now appears to be that he simply is unable to find the balance. Very much all or nothing. Tonight was nothing, in terms of going forward but all in terms of going back....Stoke was all in terms of going forward but nothing going back. We have the leagues top scorer and were sat in 11th place just 1 off 13th. With this squad and this first team.

We quite clearly at least matched them in the first half. We're not going to do that over a full 90 away from home.

But of course, the fact we were very good in the first half gets completely forgotten and called "nothing".

I think that's called "exaggerating to make a point".

 

[Brennan]

Good result and a good performance. I'll never complain about getting a draw in games like this, we did give it a go in the first half, and defended very capably in the second.

 

[davek]

agree, I suspect lennon and kone/mirrallas will start against Chelsea

its not like he WANTS to start Osman, its just that he's running out of options as we don't have masses of squad options...

Use the full squad in these PL games and get the best XI out on the pitch for the LC 2nd leg. That has to be the priority.

 

[nsno-chris]

Exactly the same for me, overall it has improved ( since Spurs ) and there's a better shape and balance to the side.

He's wrecked my head Martinez for over a year but at least the last couple of games he's shown a bit of tactical awareness and I still think we look like we've got a goal in us.

Go to Chelsea on Saturday and do the sake as tonight and I can see us going one better and getting the win.

In all honesty i didn't think we'd conceed tonight, normally i'm on the edge of my seat but it seemed very comfortable and well organised at the back.

I said the other week, with Martinez in charge i fear no team, but at the same time fear conceeding a shed load and it wrecks my head. We could easily beat Chelsea and City, get a wembley date in the calendar and then get beat by Villa. Its a pain the backside

 

[matty1878]

Why?

Why not?

 

[bicycleheader]

one poster leading a group of posters on a not so merry dance of extreme points of view in a never ending points scoring competition.

i dunno about anybody else but this got boring a long time ago.

 

[ianefc]

To be fair mate the second half of games have cost us a lot of points; thasts where the balance has been lost, seem unable to adapt to the oppositions changes, i mean at Norwich we should have been 5 up easily.

I was very very critical of him last year, but they have changed, gone is the boring pointless passing but in contrast its left us open at he back against the lesser teams and we have been punished at home for it.

But overall it has improved

Has it? Last season we averaged 6 wins in 19 this season we have averaged 6 wins in 21. How is that better? The forum overlord said 'minimum 60 points' well we have gained 28 from opening 63 avaliable we now need 32 from next 51. That's a big big ask IMHO.

 

[maccavennie]

In all honesty i didn't think we'd conceed tonight, normally i'm on the edge of my seat but it seemed very comfortable and well organised at the back.

I said the other week, with Martinez in charge i fear no team, but at the same time fear conceeding a shed load and it wrecks my head. We could easily beat Chelsea and City, get a wembley date in the calendar and then get beat by Villa. Its a pain the backside

I would probably take that end scenario mate of you can promise we will be playing Stoke in the final

 

[Titus Bramble]

Why not?

right

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

one poster leading a group of posters on a not so merry dance of extreme points of view in a never ending points scoring competition.

i dunno about anybody else but this got boring a long time ago.

You fishing for a like there?

 

[matty1878]

right

lol. He's not the manager I want for me and never will be

 

[Titus Bramble]

lol. He's not the manager I want for me and never will be

And so you hate him?

 

[ianefc]

Surely people don't think The whole season should be judged on tonight? I hope I'm right in assuming that. Or after one good result does all that goes before it not count?

Wake up FFS....6 (six) wins in 21 league games isn't good enough, I can't be the only one who thinks that? He has to improve? Surely?

 

[MikeH72]

Has it? Last season we averaged 6 wins in 19 this season we have averaged 6 wins in 21. How is that better? The forum overlord said 'minimum 60 points' well we have gained 28 from opening 63 avaliable we now need 32 from next 51. That's a big big ask IMHO.

Laughed at that tbh

 

[nsno-chris]

Has it? Last season we averaged 6 wins in 19 this season we have averaged 6 wins in 21. How is that better? The forum overlord said 'minimum 60 points' well we have gained 28 from opening 63 avaliable we now need 32 from next 51. That's a big big ask IMHO.

IMO yes, because the approach and gameplay has done a complete 180 from least season. Is it annoying that we are getting far to many draws than wins, yes of course it is.

Now i'm not one of the "build a statue" brigade, i go off what i'm witnessing on the pitch and it has improved. Last year (2014) i wanted him out after that Christmas period, it was some of the worst football and tactical approach i ahve witnessed since Walker; I said i'd give gim to christmas just gone.

I am more confident with the fact that we could put a 5/6/7 game winning streak together this season than i was last