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Roberto Martinez discussion

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Not good enough, but we are so tantalizingly close to being very good.

The ceiling is higher under Martinez, although the way he wants to play allows a lower floor.

It's one of those things that when it clicks, it's going to click in a big way, and we can go on a run.

Or we will finish 15th and I'll want to kill myself
 
We have lost 5 games all season, the same amount as City who sit top, so frustrating.

Today was our own fault, as a team, not blaming the manager, honestly, even tho he picks Howard, it wasnt on Howard today, sure him and Jags screwed up on the goal which allowed them back, but to be 2-0 up and then 3-2 and still draw, its just a joke, not blaming El Coco here.

Just ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH

There is only one man to blame and that is the joke ref.
 
We have lost 5 games all season, the same amount as City who sit top, so frustrating.

Today was our own fault, as a team, not blaming the manager, honestly, even tho he picks Howard, it wasnt on Howard today, sure him and Jags screwed up on the goal which allowed them back, but to be 2-0 up and then 3-2 and still draw, its just a joke, not blaming El Coco here.

Just ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH

as soon as I saw that high ball and that it was just Jags with Costa I feared what eventually happened.

its incredible how many times he panics under a high ball when going back towaeds goal.

frustrating is the word
 

Honestly Dave and you know I'm a Bobby fan: I am going to remember it with Stoke and Bournemouth as yet another game where fought back heroically to have a lead in the last minutes of a game and don't see it out. No Everton fan is going to cherish that game.
I tell you what mate, if you sat through the dire football served up by the rubbish Everton managers who preceded Martinez you'd cherish everyone of these performances.

As said earlier: the dust will settle and people will accept we were mugged by corrupt officialdom again....which is EXACTLY what happened here. Sorry if that's an inconvenient truth for some, but a truth it is.
 
Scored three goals against Chelsea, Bournemouth and Stoke And didn't win any of them.

This is seriously worrying. He has proven that he cannot organise a defence. As good as he maybe at attack, defending it also a part of the game.
 
Chris Sutton on bbc sport has described Martinez as 'whinging. He is paid to give a considered and unbiased opinion. Not withstanding the fact the ref should never have played 7 minutes extra, we then played on additional minute and allowed a goal to stand that was clearly was offside. Add in the fact Costa deliberately cheated. Injured off the pitch then came back on the pitch to try and receive treatment and not even booked. The ref and the officials should be embarrassed by their performances today.
 

We've only won 6 games (only the bottom 4 have won fewer). We have only lost 5 games (only the top 4 have lost fewer). Bent officials to one side, we clearly have a problem holding a lead. I don't want Martinez out, I like his positivity and our attacking is impressive, but I do want him to wake up to his own inadequacies and get himself a defensive coach. Please. Before my head explodes.
 
Chris Sutton on bbc sport has described Martinez as 'whinging. He is paid to give a considered and unbiased opinion. Not withstanding the fact the ref should never have played 7 minutes extra, we then played on additional minute and allowed a goal to stand that was clearly was offside. Add in the fact Costa deliberately cheated. Injured off the pitch then came back on the pitch to try and receive treatment and not even booked. The ref and the officials should be embarrassed by their performances today.

forgot about that by Costa.

very clever in fairness. cheating but clever
 
I tell you what mate, if you sat through the dire football served up by the rubbish Everton managers who preceded Martinez you'd cherish everyone of these performances.

As said earlier: the dust will settle and people will accept we were mugged by corrupt officialdom again....which is EXACTLY what happened here. Sorry if that's an inconvenient truth for some, but a truth it is.

Cant keep making excuses every game tho David.

Its every game.

Same old, game after game.
 
ill take that as a slip of the mask and an admittance of spin and windinguppery
Take it whatever way you like mate. If it suits you to position me as a wind up because you can't counter a point made then great stuff. Crack on.

A wind up for supporting our team and manager robbed of two points.

Unbelievable.
 

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