Roberto Martinez discussion

[hullefc]

I love it.

Hes educating them, no fear.

We are taking the short term hits but in the long run we will benefit with the players having the experience.

Couple.more signings and we look like O'learys leeds team or even similar to Man Utd under SAF in terms of entertainment.

At 2-0 top teams like chelsea can come back...those two teams i mention above attacked in waves and destroyed teams...they didnt go all negative to protect leads...

The best teams are those that keep trying to score.

At 2-2 when Oviedo went down - hope it isn't too serious - I said to my lad that we would score again. Because this is how Martinez has us playing, trying to carve out chances. Mirallas could have scored due to good play. Even though we scored after the corner, we were looking dangerous. This is a sea change in approach and it is this approach that will bring results.

 

[sheedys left foot]

I love it.

Hes educating them, no fear.

We are taking the short term hits but in the long run we will benefit with the players having the experience.

Couple.more signings and we look like O'learys leeds team or even similar to Man Utd under SAF in terms of entertainment.

At 2-0 top teams like chelsea can come back...those two teams i mention above attacked in waves and destroyed teams...they didnt go all negative to protect leads...

The best teams are those that keep trying to score.

The best teams protect leads end of.

The best teams don't let 2-0 leads slip away from home.

The best teams can mix their play and adapt to a particular in game situation.

The best teams know the importance of setpieces and practice them accordingly.

The best teams get all the 'luck' and aren't always on the wrong end of it.

 

[kenada_blue]

@Khalekan @davek

Phenomenal posts there chaps and nicely summed up.

I cant understand how a long term fan can be upset with the side or manager we have.

If they are impatient then surely they would prefer to watch us now than moyes teams?

If they are new fans then what do they expect?

I think its out of frustration that they see top class individuals mostly signed and developed by martinez of course and sinply look at the table...they cant seem to see the bigger picture.

why do you think that is? So negative with a positive manager yet positive with a negative manager.

Why does it have to be a Martinez v Moyes thing?

Bottom line is top 4 is wide open and we're not in the race.

This "potentially" great young side won't be there next season.

 

[ijjysmith]

The best teams are those that keep trying to score.

In reality the best teams are the ones that win the most games. Not score the most goals.

I'd prefer to win every game 1-0 I think.

 

[Minimeister]

You can't blame Martinez for Howard actually coming off his line, for the first time ever, and that first goal happening, nor can you blame him for that massive deflection, and outrageously, you can't blame him for the referee being a bias arsewipe, and allowing that extra time and the subsequent offside goal.

You can however blame him for trying to sit back on the lead, that's ridiculous, and we showed against City that we got massively lucky by doing that and playing Howard, he played great against City, did well first half and finally looked confident... Then that happened. His confidence and the defences was shot and that was that... Vulnerable, and we got punished.

It's a hard one to take this, the train is very sombre.

Oh we can mate. Bottom half in the poorest league for years with the best squad we've had for years. Any other club would have sacked him long ago.

 

[davek]

the you haven't been watching the season if you think this United side is capable of overhauling Leicester

Is that the mighty Leicester who just got held by Villa? The Leicester that's taken 6 points in the last 6 games? The Leicester that'd stand a mammoth 6 points ahead of United if United win tomorrow?

That Leicester?

 

[davek]

No, it's 1 issue. The aforementioned defensive display is also an issue.

One that Roberto hasn't sorted all season.

...but hold on, Spurs and City...the last two games before today...wasn't it sorted then?

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

Yes, but it was the goal at the death that's the issue: how can the point not stand thereafter that we got ahead and saw out the time added on?

In what sense is that in any way the fault of a manager.

Yes, it's the goal at the death that matters. Disregard the fact that we were 2 goals up, comfortable-ish & in a position to kill the game...

 

[Khalekan]

@Khalekan @davek

Phenomenal posts there chaps and nicely summed up.

I cant understand how a long term fan can be upset with the side or manager we have.

If they are impatient then surely they would prefer to watch us now than moyes teams?

If they are new fans then what do they expect?

I think its out of frustration that they see top class individuals mostly signed and developed by martinez of course and sinply look at the table...they cant seem to see the bigger picture.

why do you think that is? So negative with a positive manager yet positive with a negative manager.

Cheers, Zat

 

[Dexter]

So now we are closer to the relegation zone than the top 4 and it's nearly February, hahaha but the manager is brilliant, only Evertonians can think that, unbelievable

 

[ilikecheese]

In reality the best teams are the ones that win the most games. Not score the most goals.

I'd prefer to win every game 1-0 I think.

Personally I'd prefer 3-0. 1-0 is far too stressful.

 

[Goat]

Is that the mighty Leicester who just got held by Villa? The Leicester that's taken 6 points in the last 6 games? The Leicester that'd stand a mammoth 6 points ahead of United if United win tomorrow?

That Leicester?

The team thats top of the league, not a single world class player in their entire squad, we have 5 of them, we are 11th.

 

[n01efc]

The players panicked again, 2-0 and we started hoofing the ball rather than keeping possession what can roberto do about that?

 

[davek]

You talk some absolute BULLSHIT when you say that Moyes was a coward. He may not of been able to provide the attacking flare that we see today, but that was due to the limited resources that were available to him. You are entitled to your opinion, but don't make yourself look like a spoilt brat when expressing it.

He was a hoofball dinosaur.

I'm sure some would love that tripe back...but not as many as you'd expect.

NO ONE wants to go back to that up and under nonsense apart from a small cohort of people who see him as someone who's 'safe'. How ambitious.

 

[DanEFC92]

...but hold on, Spurs and City...the last two games before today...wasn't it sorted then?

Apparently not as we're back to being dreadful defensively.