Points totals are relative to the teams about them. Whining like a bad bish about getting loads of points but finishing (comfortably) 5th is like whining bad bish about how you won a game that you didn't win. Anyone know anybody who does that?
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TheHumbleEgg
Player Valuation: £15m
....that sounds like something only a genius would say.
Oh.
Starting to hope Gus the DINK comes out and says it's all meaningless anyway as John Terry scored OUR first which should (under RM ruling: para 3:3) now be attributed to CHELSEA.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Agree on this, Moyes came in post Walter Smith, with a shocking Squad that had the likes of Paul Gerrard, Pistone, Alexandersen and Scott Gemmill in the first team, and was able to being in the likes of Li Tie. While Martinez was able to get Lukaku. But Moyes took us forward, in hard times, while Martinez looks like keeping us at the top of the bottom half of the table for the foreseeble future.
Martinez dosen't know how lucky he is after taking Wigan down to get what was a stable top 6 club until he turned up.
Stanley Parker
Player Valuation: £15m
Moyes did this, Moyes did that. I've heard enough! By the way, he is back at his home now.
But Martinez certainly knows the value of a supportive chairman. I think he will repay that loyalty.
I can't agree that Oviedo being forward had owt to do with the first goal.
It was a Hail Mary played forward in the hope that an isolated striker might get on the end if it......it was a simple enough job for Jags to deal with that ball but inexplicably he didn't and his error was compounded by Timmy rushing out and failing to deal with it.
Re what people feel as they leave the ground these days.
I can only speak for myself and three or four chums who go the game with me but we feel exhilarated and joyous at the manner in which our team attacks.
Disappointed when we haven't won a game we should have won comfortably but extremely optimistic that this team is going to take us to heights not scaled at Goodison in a long, long time.
And always these days counting down the hours to the next thrilling instalment.
Once that back door is locked there is no team, including Arsenal or City, you couldn't see us battering.
And ever since Stoke there has been a new soldidiy in the defence.
It was evident against Spurs and in the two games agsinst City, especially in the second half of the league game over there when the last half hour was like Rorke's Drift but this time the Zulus never breached the defences.
That was the first shut out they have had at home in a year......and some of Europe's top teams have visited them in the CL.
The Chelsea game has masked this and clouded many people's judgement but really there was only one mistake all day and that was the one which led to the first goal for them.
No one needs it pointed out again that outrageous luck and bad linesmanship led to the other two.
Roll on Sunday......never have matchdays held out so much promise
AaronTheBlue
Player Valuation: £60m
you can say 'entertainers' all you like, and post all the lovely goals we've scored.
But we've won six games. got 11 draws, and we're half way through the season, we haven't won at home in the prem for ages, we haven't won two successive premier league matches since last year, something is seriously wrong.
this squad is capable of much more.
But we've won six games. got 11 draws, and we're half way through the season, we haven't won at home in the prem for ages, we haven't won two successive premier league matches since last year, something is seriously wrong.
this squad is capable of much more.
zirc
Player Valuation: £40m
What gets me is, why do people think this inevitable? You want to point at the progression of the attack as a reason we are great, but assume that the defence will get better when it's steadily getting worse. It's not like Martinez has a reputation for building a solid defence either. The first two goals we conceded against Cheslea were more of the same, utter gifts.
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
Dropped two senior keepers and brought a 17yr old back on loan and started him.
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
Oh right
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
Fantastic post.I can't agree that Oviedo being forward had owt to do with the first goal.
It was a Hail Mary played forward in the hope that an isolated striker might get on the end if it......it was a simple enough job for Jags to deal with that ball but inexplicably he didn't and his error was compounded by Timmy rushing out and failing to deal with it.
Re what people feel as they leave the ground these days.
I can only speak for myself and three or four chums who go the game with me but we feel exhilarated and joyous at the manner in which our team attacks.
Disappointed when we haven't won a game we should have won comfortably but extremely optimistic that this team is going to take us to heights not scaled at Goodison in a long, long time.
And always these days counting down the hours to the next thrilling instalment.
Once that back door is locked there is no team, including Arsenal or City, you couldn't see us battering.
And ever since Stoke there has been a new soldidiy in the defence.
It was evident against Spurs and in the two games agsinst City, especially in the second half of the league game over there when the last half hour was like Rorke's Drift but this time the Zulus never breached the defences.
That was the first shut out they have had at home in a year......and some of Europe's top teams have visited them in the CL.
The Chelsea game has masked this and clouded many people's judgement but really there was only one mistake all day and that was the one which led to the first goal for them.
No one needs it pointed out again that outrageous luck and bad linesmanship led to the other two.
Roll on Sunday......never have matchdays held out so much promise
Slightly disagree over the first goal. No one doubt its a mistake by Jags and less so by Howard, but what John Stones is doing there I have no idea. He didn't even attempt to get back.
But everything is spot on imo
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
I think that's a bit of a broad brush statement. There are plenty who see it from both sides.
I just think there is a feeling of divine right to be up there, to be successful, which is based on the distant past.
Take the comparisons to WH for example. Sure weve won 9 titles etc but it's got nothing to do with the teams here and now. Yet some act like it's a stat that will mean we will always have a better team, be a better club. When we see them do well and sit in a lofty position, jealousy takes over and we then look to blame something/someone, and its usually the manager.
What the manager here is building is far superior to what Bilic is, squad wise. Let them have their season above us if it comes to that, because the way it's going I believe in a year or two we will have a team that is challenging again on all fronts. West ham won't imo.
No one thinks it is "inevitable".......just the optimistic among us reckon shoring things up at the back is a heck of a sight easier than building a deadly attacking edge.
We already have the latter.......the former now appears to be taking shape.
Though anyone who thinks Chelsea's second goal was an "utter gift" rather than the freak that it was probably doesn't want to be convinced of owt that goes against his own prejudice.
That would be my take on it as well. The next few weeks may well crystallize the fan base opinions and the manager situation moving forward till the next chairman is installed at some future point. Our position in the PL table and the outcome of the cup games will outstrip the same tired arguments that have been going on all season about the rights and wrongs of the brown shoes tenure as the manager.
The pending match results starting at Man City are finally ready to take centre stage and have the last meaningful word.
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