Jim Lahey
Banned
OK mate.
Moyes taking us from 17th to fourth within a couple years, and then keeping us around the European places for the rest of his tenure isn’t an achievement, but Martinez finishing 5th with half of Moyes squad in one solitary season is an achievement?
OK mate.
There is no knee jerking from me, I’m actually bringing some reality to the discussion here. It is people like you who are participating in exaggerated delusional hyperbole, making out that this style of play is breath taking, who are similar to the whoppers on RAWK. You will be saying “Next year is our year” next.
And anyone can do what you are trying to do with Moyes 4th place achievements. I could easily say that the reason we obtained our highest points total last year is because all of the other also-rans were even crapper than usual. Or I could say Moyes had a crapper team at his disposal at the time, and therefore his achievement is more impressive.
But the fact is that we were the 5th best team last year, end of. In 2005, we were the 4th best team, end of. You can try your hardest to convince yourself that finishing 5th is a better achievement than finishing 4th, but it isn’t, and it never will be.
This man speak the truth. Whilst I personally think Moyes' 'achievments' are extremely overrated by our media mainly due to the fact that Moyes is a good old fashioned, hard working Brit; no-one can ignore the foundations he laid whilst at Everton. Martinez simply took them and added a sprinkling of star dust.
My fear for Everton is that there's too much star dust being sprinkled now - what happened to the solidarity?
Time will tell.