Its nice to see The Plotters out and about today.
Its a shame the battle is already over.
Its a shame the battle is already over.
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How can pointing out that one of our players has already put in a transfer request, in response to somebody else claiming the players will not leave because they buy into the manager, possibly be irrelevant?
The battle is never over with 4 home wins in 8 months.
No, I don't know best. I'm not saying that we dominate every game.
In that game I don't believe Howard had to pull off any extremely great saves bar the first one he made. He made a couple of decent stops but ones that if Foster had made the other day you'd have said didn't count as a chance for us...
What I am saying is that if we took more of the chances we regularly create, our defensive issues wouldn't really matter...
It's not like last season when we were crap going forward and crap at the back - so it's just frustrating we haven't been able to put more of the chances away...
Stones didn't hand in that transfer request because he doesn't 'buy into the manager', though?
Wont you at least give Peace a chance?
Its just like starting over
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
If the point being made is that the players all buy into Martinez then it's not irrelevant at all. So they buy into Martinez until someone offers them something better? That's not really buying in that's biding time
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
If he really bought into the manager he would feel his career would be best suited even in the short term by staying. If he really bought into the manager he wouldn't move for the sake of a couple of seasons at a higher wage
He didnt move tho mate.
He could have got the move, quite easily, all he had to do was push the transfer request, the ball was firmly in Chelsea court at that point, it would have only take 1 more bid, but Chelsea backed off, why do you think that was?
stretford blue
Player Valuation: £35m
Funny reading about guardiolas comments Last night about his game management two nil up and cruising and drawing and saying team has youngsters they will learn. And him saying he was very happy with how the game went .can imagine if Roberto had said that what the reaction would be
Brendan Janus
Player Valuation: £40m
bluewally
Player Valuation: £8m
Yes chelsea backed off, he didnt withdraw the request. And having rejected the request Everton were never going to let him go in the summer. So to say he could have gotten the move quite easily is incorrect.
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I honestly think you've got me all wrong mate. Don't tell the mods, but I use this thread like a general performance thread rather than Martinez specifically. Most of my comments are about the team performance, not just the manager.
It does seem to me that some fans are so relentlessly positive, and so convinced that everything's moving in the right direction, that they fail to see a lot of the negatives.
I'm not suggesting Howard had to make unbelievable saves against Sunderland, any more than I'm saying an equaliser (or even winner) against west brom would have been undeserved. What I'm debating against is the seemingly one eyed bias views that have some people claiming that every setback can be explained by poor refereeing/inexplicable misses/general bad luck, while seeing every good result as totally deserved. It's laughable. Unfortunately some of your posts today have been that way, just looking at the what ifs from our POV. I'm not being negative, simply pointing out that it works both ways and we've had our share of luck.
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