At the match we were waiting for lukaku's number to raised. I personally didn't think that was the needed but it would have made a bit more sense. But when lennons name was announced everyone around me just looked confused. I think we all knew at that stage he had thrown the game.
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At the match we were waiting for lukaku's number to raised. I personally didn't think that was the needed but it would have made a bit more sense. But when lennons name was announced everyone around me just looked confused. I think we all knew at that stage he had thrown the game.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Perhaps they all should go for a few drinks and a Chinese in Southport.
Can i just say zat, i didnt notice Lennon looking shot to bits. If anything we looked comfortable and probably the most likely to score on the break.
lancs blue
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Martinez is a nice guy but nice guys dont make great managers. I cannot see him reading the riot act some how. Lennon had to go off agreed but is that down to fitness training? A player who cant play 90 mins is useless. As for Niase coming on in such a big game was suicide. We had no outlet once Lennon went off. As for the Martinez in brigade you can have him but the majority want him out. Martinez is good at signing players and pretty football agreed. But football is a results business and thats where he's lacking. But the most annoying thing is no matter how much we post our frustrations about Martinez he will still be here next season with the likes of Jones,Lawrence and Ferguson on the bench.
Let me just tag @Zatara into this so he can read it...
Eric Djemba-Djemba
Player Valuation: £60m
FRAUD
.....apparently 67% of our goals against have been conceded at home. We continually fail to manage games efficiently at home and away which is not down to confidence or attitude, it's down to poor tactical deployment.
zirc
Player Valuation: £40m
I think Martinez would have less criticism if we didn't continually bottle matches in the final quarter of an hour. You make it sound like we're sitting top 4 and the manager is getting pelters for no reason. We look like finishing bottom half of the table for the second season in a row.
zirc
Player Valuation: £40m
Because its utterly mental to bring on a second striker when you're down to 10 and defending a lead?
CahillsCornerFlag
Player Valuation: £70m
4 home wins in 11 months. 3 of which were in the bottom 3.
He's Brendan Rogers mk2. All he is is excuses and sound bytes, and anyone still buying into it is being fooled by all the hot air and empty promises. It's the fans fault is it Bob? No wait it's Rom's fault this time? Both of those excuses reek of ineptitude.
Anyone who seriously thinks he's going to suddenly improve his win percentage dramatically is basing it on absolutely nothing except their own dreams. It's been poor for nigh on 2 years, evidence suggests it isn't changing. All we can go off is evidence, it's called making an informed decision, and the informed decision based on almost 2 years of evidence now is that he isn't good enough.
Fed up of the excuses. Fed up watching us throw away leads. Fed up of the nonsensical subs. Fed up of us completely taking our foot off the gas against teams we should be battering.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum Roberto, and you're nowhere close to fitting in with that.
He's Brendan Rogers mk2. All he is is excuses and sound bytes, and anyone still buying into it is being fooled by all the hot air and empty promises. It's the fans fault is it Bob? No wait it's Rom's fault this time? Both of those excuses reek of ineptitude.
Anyone who seriously thinks he's going to suddenly improve his win percentage dramatically is basing it on absolutely nothing except their own dreams. It's been poor for nigh on 2 years, evidence suggests it isn't changing. All we can go off is evidence, it's called making an informed decision, and the informed decision based on almost 2 years of evidence now is that he isn't good enough.
Fed up of the excuses. Fed up watching us throw away leads. Fed up of the nonsensical subs. Fed up of us completely taking our foot off the gas against teams we should be battering.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum Roberto, and you're nowhere close to fitting in with that.
Real football does not operate the same as those games you play
Darth Vader
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He's a poor manager who makes poor decisions
Hopefully now we can afford to pay out his contract we can get rid
Hopefully now we can afford to pay out his contract we can get rid
Eric Djemba-Djemba
Player Valuation: £60m
Rodgers at least took advantage of having a top quality striker in the form of his life by getting them back into the CL. Even if he was exposed as a fraud when they sold him. Imagine how bad we're going to be next season without Lukaku.
TheFinnFan
Finners
How is it martinezs fault that lukaku didnt score...he had a chance to bury it...but didnt. It was the crucial moment and I knew it we would be losing it after that.
All season there has been something wrong between me and Everton, but yesterday I finally put my finger on it. All enjoyment I get from going the game has gone. A win or defeat used to run through me until Monday morning, but now Everton is at the back of my mind by the time I've reached Kirkdale for the train home. I can't build up any passion as we've became so predictable. I sat down after Lennon's goal yesterday and the first thing that went through my mind was when are we going to throw this away. It's pathetic that we can be 2-0 at home, yet have 0% confidence in winning. Judging by the home atmosphere this season, I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this?
However much I wanted Martinez to be a success here, I think the blame has to lie with him. We've self imploded too many times this season for it to be bad luck or coincidence. There's fundamental flaws in our setup/tactics/mentality that he either can't see, won't fix, or doesn't know how to fix. We've got players who are individually impressive and valuable, but put them together as a team, and they're worth a lot less. We're criminally underperforming and shot of confidence. For that reason, I've jumped off the fence and moved to the 'respectably part ways with Martinez camp'. No idea on a replacement though.
However much I wanted Martinez to be a success here, I think the blame has to lie with him. We've self imploded too many times this season for it to be bad luck or coincidence. There's fundamental flaws in our setup/tactics/mentality that he either can't see, won't fix, or doesn't know how to fix. We've got players who are individually impressive and valuable, but put them together as a team, and they're worth a lot less. We're criminally underperforming and shot of confidence. For that reason, I've jumped off the fence and moved to the 'respectably part ways with Martinez camp'. No idea on a replacement though.
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