As a team, we lost our intensity in our own half...stood off too much. We had the formula down and then slowly tired, lit their candle and then crapped ourselves. Saw it just as much under Moyes, just with less goals.
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Roberto Martinez discussion
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Loads of other options. Baines on, push Oviedo up. Even Osman to play a Cleverley type role and help defend. Deulofeu was the obvious one, or Barry and shut up shop (something Martinez has absolutely no concept of).
Barring bringing Tim Howard on up front, Niasse was the worst possible sub he could have made, and I honestly don't think any other manager would have made it. Or fan for the matter. The reasons why are too numerous to explain.
Fansince1988
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I don't believe he can sort out the defence, it's gone on to long with no improvement in that department, as frustrating as it was with Moyes in charge, he at least would have addressed the problem a long time ago. I do think yesterday there was a few to blame, but it's not just that match the the others we have lost point in. It's much the same as last year I've been saying for along time that Martinez needs to be replaced and even if we win the cup and the league games improve, we will have many spells when thing don't go right and that's when Martinez struggles big time, that's why he isn't a great manager because he is useless at fixing things and that's why hopefully sooner rather than later he will lose his job.
Neiziro
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Today, Klopp threw on a playmaker and a striker when chasing a goal. He took off a striker for a CB when down to 10 men and trying to protect the scoreline, and then eventually won the game - they were basic tactical substitutions. Martinez does understand anything of the sort.
The best Everton team in a long time is being vastly outperformed by the worst Liverpool team in a long time. Just think about that. Granted, Martinez did build this great team, but what's the point in having a great team if you're underperforming with it?
The best Everton team in a long time is being vastly outperformed by the worst Liverpool team in a long time. Just think about that. Granted, Martinez did build this great team, but what's the point in having a great team if you're underperforming with it?
AaronTheBlue
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After calming down and thinking it through cup win or not I think its time for him to go.
He is tactically naive and his results have been consistently poor this season and last with the squad we have we should be challenging for Europe not luckily hoping to sneak in and languishing in 11th.
7 home defeats is unacceptable and I dont think any club aiming for Europe would accept it and this level for two seasons on the run.
Hopefully moshiri is a bit ruthless and gets rid in the summer.
Bring in a proven winner not a chancer and a charmer.
He is tactically naive and his results have been consistently poor this season and last with the squad we have we should be challenging for Europe not luckily hoping to sneak in and languishing in 11th.
7 home defeats is unacceptable and I dont think any club aiming for Europe would accept it and this level for two seasons on the run.
Hopefully moshiri is a bit ruthless and gets rid in the summer.
Bring in a proven winner not a chancer and a charmer.
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Liverpool were underperforming so they got rid of their manager. Why can't we do the same.
Blues Harp
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Won FOUR games at home - yes FOUR !! Supported this great club since the sixties, seen highs and lows but as a current ST I am sick of not seeing us WIN games for all the crap talked about "entertainers", and stupid comparisons being made between the 70s and 80s sides and this one. when i go to the match i want to see my side win.....not throw away games due to a failed philosophy of "We'll score more than you". And before anyone starts on our away form we've thrown away points when we should have won...Chelsea, Norwich, Bournemouth etc. Arsenal up in the league next.....on the way to our worst home record since 93/94 why should we give Martinez another season? wake up Blues !!
Haha surely not
Fansince1988
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Yes I totally agree, money talks so let's hope he sorts this fiasco out sooner rather than later. Now really is the perfect time for a change as a new manager would get 10 games to settle in, I would sacrifice a cup win now for a new manager as this situation has been lingering on for far to long. My choice would be Laudrup but there's many more I wouldn't mind here.
bring the ghost on
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That because this is the 'Robert Martinez discussion' thread mate.
bring the ghost on
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MOTD didn't show anything of Niasse, did he really look that bad in possession?
Without seeing anything of him, I still think it is a baffling substitution at that point in the game.
Without seeing anything of him, I still think it is a baffling substitution at that point in the game.
Fansince1988
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Who do you think realistically would be a good replacement for Martinez? My choice would be Laudrup reason being he knows Europe very well and he's highly respected throughout Europe to, also he did do very well at Swansea untill it went a bit pear shaped at the end, but that does happen to a lot of managers so I'd be happy to have him here.
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