Roberto Martinez discussion

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

Or Pulis.

Above us with an infinitely worse squad. Would probably be doing a better job than Martinez.

 

[froggyted]

Above us with an infinitely worse squad. Would probably be doing a better job than Martinez.

Still not good enough for us, by a long chalk.

 

[Ashtonian]

Yesterday was a turning point for me, I gotta admit, to see how happy Besic was winning that peno and then us not only missing it, but going on to lose the game was to much for my Mo to take.

He deserves better.

Imagine how rom feels scoring winning goals only to walk off the pitch with nothing to show for it? 18 league goals, over 20 goals overall and right now his old club west brim are above him.

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

But the thing is, if we battered Chelsea 3 0, we wouldnt be that surprised. Well we would, but you get the point. We can go toe to toe with anyone. But we can also do an Everton.

Sake Bobby.

You say we can go toe to toe with anyone but who have we beaten anyone that's any good this season. Last season the only good team we beat was United. We don't beat anyone unless they are relegation material.

 

[hallamblue]

We need an experienced manager who has achieved European Qualification and preferably a cup or two with a similarly sized club in Europe. The talent we have means someone has managed in Spain or Italy could do ok at Everton now, whereas when Moyes was there they would have struggled.

 

[Ashtonian]

haha.

He was superb though.

Barry's been class this season and I think he'll start on Saturday, but it has to be in a three with Besic and McCarthy next to him. Put Barkley and Lennon either side of Rom and we look a different side.

Then, when we're playing teams we will have to go on the front foot against, I'd play Besic at home rather than Barry, and save Gaz for the away games.

One of the positives yesterday for me was seeing McCarthy and Besic work so well as a partnership.

That's a future pairing that could take us places. McCarthy great at getting back and covering ground and besic great box to box player.

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

Still not good enough for us, by a long chalk.

Neither are.

 

[neil999]

I'd love someone to vault my lists from last year, be curious to see how much of my opinion then rings true 12 months later!

We aren't a sacking club, and under our new ownership since the 90s we have also gone nowhere. We are a mid table club which is baffling to say, but its true. Teams who were in a lower division not too long ago are outperforming us, consistently as well.

sunderland,villa,Newcastle and others are the ying to this yang

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

We need an experienced manager who has achieved European Qualification and preferably a cup or two with a similarly sized club in Europe. The talent we have means someone has managed in Spain or Italy could do ok at Everton now, whereas when Moyes was there they would have struggled.

There's a fat lad on the Wirral who fits that brief....

...and I don't mean Goat....

 

[Goat]

There's a fat lad on the Wirral who fits that brief....

...and I don't mean Goat....

LAD?

 

[hktoffee]

You say we can go toe to toe with anyone but who have we beaten anyone that's any good this season. Last season the only good team we beat was United. We don't beat anyone unless they are relegation material.

Even he wins on Sat our league form is still ridiculous. 4 wins at Goodison this season and he is on course for the worst home record since PL begins.

 

[Eggs]

I disagree. How is a manager supposed to stop players throw leads away in a game? He cant hold their hands. They are grown men and should stand up and be counted instead of acting like the jelly fish most of them are....the divvy captain most of all.

.....basically teams go to two solid banks of 4 to see games out. Full backs sit in, man mark wide players which means the CBs don't get drawn out. Ahead of that you have a solid bank of 4 midfielders. I see no evidence of that or any other system adopted by EFC when we've been in winning positions this season. Against Chelsea our RB was the furthest player forward when Costa scored. Stones was pulled wide and Jagielka left one on one with Costa. Apparent to me that we are tactically naive, apparent to me that the manager is responsible.

 

[hallamblue]

There's a fat lad on the Wirral who fits that brief....

...and I don't mean Goat....

I know. I said it a few weeks ago. He's an absolute bell but he can organise a team. Now we have some money as well he could bring a few in, albeit he did sign some dross in his latter days with the RS.

 

[froggyted]

No mate. Penalties are missed sometimes - it happens. The 3rd goal there would've just been a luxury, but at home, a 2-0 lead should be enough to win the game.

Penalty miss or no penalty miss, you have a two goal lead with 10 minutes to go and lose. It's unacceptable. The way we manage leads is terrible. I walked out the pub at 2-1 yesterday because I knew exactly what was coming. It's a sad day when you know exactly what's going to happen, and Everton do absolutely nothing to prove you wrong.

Somebody posted on the West Ham match thread yesterday that it's something like 10 years or more since West Ham turned around a 0-2 loss. What a surprised that they managed to end that stat playing against us.

 

[Goat]

Personally, I would rather get relegated than have Rafael, but thats just me.