Woah, Domingo flexing here. Don't like his position but respecting the play nonetheless
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Woah, Domingo flexing here. Don't like his position but respecting the play nonetheless
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
I would like to apologise to you, the readers who had to endure this, and our young eager poster who I insulted.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
He's a teetotal who attends children's pop concerts in his forties.
These are not the traits of a nice man.
Pls ban them both Woolly*
*Prevenger Industries would like to declare that this statement was a joke and that any resemblance to real life playing the ref is purely coincidental
snipellis11
Player Valuation: £15m
I have been in the martinez in club but i'm having doubts becasue we are not earning from our mistakes and nothing seems to be changing, i have never seen us throw away matches from winning positions as much as this season before, far to many games we have thrown away and it keeps happening, being in a winning position and winning by two goals then suddenly we let one in and it is just so obvious what's going to happen, it's a massive worry.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
How come you're not banned ?
Michaelcoyb
Transfer Window Time Keeper
I think his ideas on how football should be played are great.
However he does not have the winning mentality that is required for us to be a top team.
This rubs off on the players and therefore we capitulate/ bottle it as soon as an opposing team gets a sniff.
However he does not have the winning mentality that is required for us to be a top team.
This rubs off on the players and therefore we capitulate/ bottle it as soon as an opposing team gets a sniff.
Your.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
You're
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
Anyone posted this fine article?
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ham-united-no1-story-roberto-martinez-everton
Slaven Bilic wants West Ham to be No1 story in ‘permanent shift at the top’
• Bilic feels form of own team and ‘miraculous leaders Leicester’ is not a one-off
• Roberto Martínez ‘can’t wait to build something special’ after Everton lose 3-2
West Ham’s manager, Slaven Bilic, catches the ball during the Premier League match against Everton – a team the Croatian described as ‘on paper, one of the best in England’. Photograph: Arfa Griffiths/West Ham via Getty
Richard Jolly at Goodison Park
Monday 7 March 2016 09.30 AEDT
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While others look at the league table and see a one-off, Slaven Bilic eyes the future. If many regard Leicester City as an anomaly, the Croat believes they could be trailblazers. As West Ham United chase the top-four finish that would make this their best season in three decades, their manager thinks it could be the sign of things to come.
“I think this is a permanent shift at the top,” Bilic said. “At least I hope it is.” West Ham finished 12th last season. They are a point off fourth now, inspired and obscured by the league leaders, Leicester, who have soared further and faster. “Our story is excellent but their story is miraculous,” Bilic said. “I would love to be the No1 story.”
Instead, he is constructing a grander, broader narrative, one where a division is being radically reshaped by the resources all of its members now enjoy. Bilic believes the best cannot become much better with a bigger budget, whereas the rest can. He sees quality and equality alike.
“Say Man City buy Karim Benzema,” he hypothesised. “They have Sergio Agüero already, so there is no big gap for them to improve. There is no big space to get much better. Chelsea can sell Diego Costa and buy Robert Lewandowski, yes, but they are only different; not better.
“But clubs like us, Crystal Palace, West Brom, Leicester: we can still improve with the money. Two years ago West Brom maybe could afford Salomón Rondón, but they would have had to sell Saido Berahino to get him. Now they can keep Berahino, so next year, with more investment, you can keep those players. Crystal Palace can keep Yohan Cabaye and bring another one.”
It is not often that money is portrayed as the great leveller but Bilic is a left-field thinker. His marquee buy possesses similar creativity. Dimitri Payet fashioned Diafra Sakho’s equaliser and scored the winner at Goodison Park, leaving him with nine assists and 10 goals for the campaign. He is West Ham’s transformative player. His new £125,000-a-week contract is rendered affordable by next season’s TV deal.
The era of the newly affluent outsider ought to suit Everton, finally able to abandon the austerity economics that characterised David Moyes’s long reign of cut-price top-eight finishes. Bilic, a former Everton player, said: “On paper their team is one of the best in England.” Yet they reside in the wrong half of the table. On the pitch Everton are potent but porous, entertaining but error-prone, extravagant wastrels who are undermining the excellent work of their top scorer.
Romelu Lukaku could yet become the first player from a lower-half team to win the golden boot since Dion Dublin shared it in 1998. “When I look at the players, it is a really strong squad,” their manager, Roberto Martínez, said. “We can’t wait to get good wins, good performances and build something special.”
He saw a fine display for much of the match, marred first by Kevin Mirallas’s deserved dismissal and then by a catastrophic ending, when Everton sieved three goals in a dozen minutes. “If you played the game 20 times those last 12 minutes we would have won probably 19,” Martínez said – but his men are not the kings of the 3-2 defeat for nothing.
Two years ago, and in more stringent times, Everton were posing their own challenge to the top four. Now when they rub shoulders with Chelsea it is because they are neighbours in underachievement. They are no less talented than West Ham but are less proficient at the mechanics of securing a result. “The Premier League is the most ruthless league in world football,” Martínez said, citing his seven years’ experience in the division as a reason why Everton’s new stakeholder, Farhad Moshiri, should entrust him with his investment.
Bilic, a rookie in this league, is outperforming him, however, and a focus on the finances, while prompted by the Croat, deflected from the acumen that has underpinned West Ham’s rise. Sakho’s cameo produced a goal and an assist. He cost only £3.5m. Michail Antonio, who has scored in their past three games, was recruited from Nottingham Forest. Aaron Cresswell, an influence throughout, was unearthed at Ipswich Town. Old-fashioned principles, of scouting, team-building and astute management, still play a part in Bilic’s brave new world.
Man of the match Adrián (West Ham)
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ham-united-no1-story-roberto-martinez-everton
Slaven Bilic wants West Ham to be No1 story in ‘permanent shift at the top’
• Bilic feels form of own team and ‘miraculous leaders Leicester’ is not a one-off
• Roberto Martínez ‘can’t wait to build something special’ after Everton lose 3-2
West Ham’s manager, Slaven Bilic, catches the ball during the Premier League match against Everton – a team the Croatian described as ‘on paper, one of the best in England’. Photograph: Arfa Griffiths/West Ham via Getty
Richard Jolly at Goodison Park
Monday 7 March 2016 09.30 AEDT
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4
Save for later
While others look at the league table and see a one-off, Slaven Bilic eyes the future. If many regard Leicester City as an anomaly, the Croat believes they could be trailblazers. As West Ham United chase the top-four finish that would make this their best season in three decades, their manager thinks it could be the sign of things to come.
“I think this is a permanent shift at the top,” Bilic said. “At least I hope it is.” West Ham finished 12th last season. They are a point off fourth now, inspired and obscured by the league leaders, Leicester, who have soared further and faster. “Our story is excellent but their story is miraculous,” Bilic said. “I would love to be the No1 story.”
Instead, he is constructing a grander, broader narrative, one where a division is being radically reshaped by the resources all of its members now enjoy. Bilic believes the best cannot become much better with a bigger budget, whereas the rest can. He sees quality and equality alike.
“Say Man City buy Karim Benzema,” he hypothesised. “They have Sergio Agüero already, so there is no big gap for them to improve. There is no big space to get much better. Chelsea can sell Diego Costa and buy Robert Lewandowski, yes, but they are only different; not better.
“But clubs like us, Crystal Palace, West Brom, Leicester: we can still improve with the money. Two years ago West Brom maybe could afford Salomón Rondón, but they would have had to sell Saido Berahino to get him. Now they can keep Berahino, so next year, with more investment, you can keep those players. Crystal Palace can keep Yohan Cabaye and bring another one.”
It is not often that money is portrayed as the great leveller but Bilic is a left-field thinker. His marquee buy possesses similar creativity. Dimitri Payet fashioned Diafra Sakho’s equaliser and scored the winner at Goodison Park, leaving him with nine assists and 10 goals for the campaign. He is West Ham’s transformative player. His new £125,000-a-week contract is rendered affordable by next season’s TV deal.
The era of the newly affluent outsider ought to suit Everton, finally able to abandon the austerity economics that characterised David Moyes’s long reign of cut-price top-eight finishes. Bilic, a former Everton player, said: “On paper their team is one of the best in England.” Yet they reside in the wrong half of the table. On the pitch Everton are potent but porous, entertaining but error-prone, extravagant wastrels who are undermining the excellent work of their top scorer.
Romelu Lukaku could yet become the first player from a lower-half team to win the golden boot since Dion Dublin shared it in 1998. “When I look at the players, it is a really strong squad,” their manager, Roberto Martínez, said. “We can’t wait to get good wins, good performances and build something special.”
He saw a fine display for much of the match, marred first by Kevin Mirallas’s deserved dismissal and then by a catastrophic ending, when Everton sieved three goals in a dozen minutes. “If you played the game 20 times those last 12 minutes we would have won probably 19,” Martínez said – but his men are not the kings of the 3-2 defeat for nothing.
Two years ago, and in more stringent times, Everton were posing their own challenge to the top four. Now when they rub shoulders with Chelsea it is because they are neighbours in underachievement. They are no less talented than West Ham but are less proficient at the mechanics of securing a result. “The Premier League is the most ruthless league in world football,” Martínez said, citing his seven years’ experience in the division as a reason why Everton’s new stakeholder, Farhad Moshiri, should entrust him with his investment.
Bilic, a rookie in this league, is outperforming him, however, and a focus on the finances, while prompted by the Croat, deflected from the acumen that has underpinned West Ham’s rise. Sakho’s cameo produced a goal and an assist. He cost only £3.5m. Michail Antonio, who has scored in their past three games, was recruited from Nottingham Forest. Aaron Cresswell, an influence throughout, was unearthed at Ipswich Town. Old-fashioned principles, of scouting, team-building and astute management, still play a part in Bilic’s brave new world.
Man of the match Adrián (West Ham)
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Potent but porous is probably an apt description.
Martinez can still turn things around but he needs to get results to match our performances.
Some game sense in closing out teams with 20minutes to go would be good to see as well.
We've very rarely, perhaps on two or three occasions been outplayed this season.
However we're well off the pace in the league. I think there is some upside to Martinez, but the results have not been good enough in any shape or form.
Win games and he'll get people back onside, me included.
Martinez can still turn things around but he needs to get results to match our performances.
Some game sense in closing out teams with 20minutes to go would be good to see as well.
We've very rarely, perhaps on two or three occasions been outplayed this season.
However we're well off the pace in the league. I think there is some upside to Martinez, but the results have not been good enough in any shape or form.
Win games and he'll get people back onside, me included.
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