Roberto Martinez discussion

[bicycleheader]

Yes mate there doesn't seem to be much about us in terms of desire. Think it's also confidence based too like.

Suppose we'll see. He's a got a wee bit of money in the bank with us due to being sound last year so hope he finds a way out of it.

Very dull to watch now like.

Very, but I see players out of form in a team that keeps getting kicked in the balls by unforced errors by one of the players. I don't think this is about spending.

I am pretty certain we will have our turning point and these same players will get back to a decent level. Even if that turning point league-wise is taking longer than I thought.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Built up a great squad including some youngsters but misusing it badly at the moment. Needs to stop handing out contracts to geriatrics and midgets.

 

[The Hibbert Agenda]

I love him. But take some accountability. Hold someone accountable (I'm looking at you Roberto, don't talk about tiredness, you messed this up)

 

[toffee matt]

 

[chicoazul]

Fair enough mate sorry i got the wrong end of the stick.
Its good that we can debate with you being so pro martinez and me being sick of him.

Is right, the forum needs more of this, like how it used to be mate.

It's sound to have a completely opposite opinion about something with someone without it descending into a melt war.

 

[toffee matt]

 

[bicycleheader]

No problem mate.

Agree with a lot you said. I hate to see managers getting fired left, right and centre after a few bad results myself. Should leave that to the Spurs, RS's of this world. However, I'm getting a bit worried about the supposed lack of fighting spirit in our players under Martinez this season. Could just be a confidence factor though as chico already said.

big time.

I am very sure its confidence. We started sprightly enough in both games this week. Passing quicker, even if not incisive enough, and then individuals have brainfarts and the whole team drops their heads.

 

[Del]

Lost faith in him

Really think he's going to drag us backwards

 

[PhilM]

sorry daz, I think i've said this to you before, but this is just a nonsense. I know you want to hear certain things, but what a manager says after a game makes no difference. Every manager at this level can put the boot in and be tough, I wouldn't spend a split second worrying that he can't when needs be.

To a point I agree. I always believe a manager wouldn't get to this level, without having a ruthless side to them. Press talk can simply be rhetoric.

However, his statements post match today are bordering on delusional, especially considering how poor we were.

Either it makes a mockery of the fans who actually watched the match, or maybe (just maybe) he isn't actually seeing our problems.

Some may say his rigidity with regards to tactics and 'confusing' selection (both who starts and subs who come on), would support the latter.

Basically, I think it would put the fans at ease to know he's unhappy as well with today's performance, rather than painting over the cracks.

 

[chicoazul]

Sell Barkley, give all of the funds to Mirallas as a pay rise so he doesn't leave to Arsenal.

 

[daz4matty]

Lost faith in him

Really think he's going to drag us backwards

I feel your pain mate

 

[daz4matty]

Is right, the forum needs more of this, like how it used to be mate.

It's sound to have a completely opposite opinion about something with someone without it descending into a melt war.

Yeah is right

 

[bicycleheader]

Is he showing it though mate?
Why say the effort was magnificent it makes him look stupid with a comment like that after the performance

doesnt make him look stupid to me.

 

[toffee matt]

 

[loooweee]

that performance was....aarghhh