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Roberto Martinez discussion
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8th and 7th.
Eric Djemba-Djemba
Player Valuation: £60m
It's not just in the league, it's in Europe isn't it?
Haha. I'm perched precariously mate.
I won't turn on him fully but I'm accepting that I don't now think he fully grasps what he has to do. It's a shame as in his short time here he's done very well on the whole I just don't now if he'll ever be the person to see what he has started through with any success - and all down to being too stubborn for his own good in terms of believing that no other team will see the quite obvious weaknesses
TheHumbleEgg
Player Valuation: £15m
bitter-no-better
Player Valuation: £25m
and 4 home wins off a champions league place. that is how significant our home form is, to where we could and should be placed.
Igrok
Player Valuation: £20m
Yea, this is a Wiganesque management style...new school in the art of football
Onwards Evertonians
Player Valuation: £8m
Fan patience wearing thin for Martinez as Everton throw it away
7 March 2016
Barclays Premier League 2015/16
To finish in top ten
Liverpool1/150
West Ham1/80
Chelsea1/8
Stoke2/5
Southampton4/9
Everton8/11
Watford4/1
West Brom5/1
Bournemouth12/1
Crystal Palace16/1
As Dimitri Payet completed a West Ham turnaround at Goodison Park on Saturday it might have felt like a sense of déjà vu for Everton fans.
The Hammers’ come-from-behind 3-2 victory was the third time this season that the Toffees have failed to win a Premier League game having been two goals to the good.
It also signalled their fifth defeat in their last seven home games in the top-flight, leaving the Merseyside club floundering in 12th place and 8/13 (from 2/9 a month ago) to make the top-half by the end of the season.
Failure to do so would be the first time in nearly 15 years that the club have failed to command a position of 10th or higher in consecutive seasons.
And it now appears that manager Roberto Martinez’s backing from the fans is beginning to wane.
Last term it was thought that an extended run in the Europa League was to blame for their indifferent Premier League form, but with no European adventures this time round, excuses are beginning to run out for the Spaniard.
More in the link. http://news.ladbrokes.com/football/...in-for-martinez-as-everton-throw-it-away.html
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7 March 2016
Barclays Premier League 2015/16
To finish in top ten
Liverpool1/150
West Ham1/80
Chelsea1/8
Stoke2/5
Southampton4/9
Everton8/11
Watford4/1
West Brom5/1
Bournemouth12/1
Crystal Palace16/1
As Dimitri Payet completed a West Ham turnaround at Goodison Park on Saturday it might have felt like a sense of déjà vu for Everton fans.
The Hammers’ come-from-behind 3-2 victory was the third time this season that the Toffees have failed to win a Premier League game having been two goals to the good.
It also signalled their fifth defeat in their last seven home games in the top-flight, leaving the Merseyside club floundering in 12th place and 8/13 (from 2/9 a month ago) to make the top-half by the end of the season.
Failure to do so would be the first time in nearly 15 years that the club have failed to command a position of 10th or higher in consecutive seasons.
And it now appears that manager Roberto Martinez’s backing from the fans is beginning to wane.
Last term it was thought that an extended run in the Europa League was to blame for their indifferent Premier League form, but with no European adventures this time round, excuses are beginning to run out for the Spaniard.
More in the link. http://news.ladbrokes.com/football/...in-for-martinez-as-everton-throw-it-away.html
AaronTheBlue
Player Valuation: £60m
If we lose against Chelsea then I think he's gone personally
TheHumbleEgg
Player Valuation: £15m
Y'know one of the biggies for me (and I've mentioned this before) I have some mates, WIGAN fans, who basically laughed when he came and went 'Right, this is how it's gonna go...' And it pains to say they were pretty well bang on the button. And because of that, and an age ago, I scoured WIGAN forums, pressers, interviews with him, basically done m'research....and it's ALL the same shiz. All of it. There's SO much written here that - (obv take away the standard of player) - that is literally verbatim to what was written then by their fans...
I wish, genuinely, he'd learn 'cos there's no doubt he's a savvy guy. But, maaaaaaaaaan.....
Toffeeslam
Player Valuation: £35m
Mickey
Player Valuation: £35m
I'd go easy on him mate he's nursing more lumps than McGregor this afternoon. His boy has let him down again and is most likely planning the exit strategy when it all goes tits up. But he'll come out swinging if we beat Chelsea make no mistake, the kids loyal.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
To achieve success in this league you need to be defensively solid.
All the best sides in the division who've achieved anything of real note have done so from a solid back line and keeper.
The only exception to that in recent years was across the park, when ultimately their defensive frailty cost them the Holy Grail, and they had arguably the best striker (or certainly one of the very best) in the World at the time in the starting XI.
The way we are playing will never deliver consistent results, a couple of cup games yeah, but over a 38 game season the inherent defensive frailty, brought about by the managers total lack of focus on it - will never see us deliver any form of sustained challenge.
As even the very best have off days, and when they're not firing, they find a way of getting a result. Martinez has proved that he's not a manager who is either willing or able to grind out a result with a plan B. His wretched philosophy is dictating the results that we're seeing from this Everton side, and it's got to the point were it's beyond 'growing pains' or part of the 'development' it's merely a symptom of his flawed outlook.
All the best sides in the division who've achieved anything of real note have done so from a solid back line and keeper.
The only exception to that in recent years was across the park, when ultimately their defensive frailty cost them the Holy Grail, and they had arguably the best striker (or certainly one of the very best) in the World at the time in the starting XI.
The way we are playing will never deliver consistent results, a couple of cup games yeah, but over a 38 game season the inherent defensive frailty, brought about by the managers total lack of focus on it - will never see us deliver any form of sustained challenge.
As even the very best have off days, and when they're not firing, they find a way of getting a result. Martinez has proved that he's not a manager who is either willing or able to grind out a result with a plan B. His wretched philosophy is dictating the results that we're seeing from this Everton side, and it's got to the point were it's beyond 'growing pains' or part of the 'development' it's merely a symptom of his flawed outlook.
neil999
Player Valuation: £80m
nah , might get active unrest tho..signs etc...been none that in crowd so far has there?
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