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Roberto Martinez discussion

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whiteshadow said:
RM has got to address the issues the team is beset with defensively if he wants to keep his job for any length of time. I think that's beyond debate, unless you're davek. lol

I think the question is how long he should get to try and improve it. Personally I'd give him until the end of the season to show some signs of promise. Despite his defensive failings I do think he's done a lot of positive things to the team but he has to get the balance right.

Assuming he stays in charge, at least until the end of the season, I think it'll be a tricky call on wether to stick with him or not over the summer as whoever is in charge may have to deal with huge issues like a possible replacement for Lukaku, depending on his stance, as well as some other players.

It's a really big call for the new owner and the board either way but I don't think it's as easy or as clear cut a decision as some posters seem to feel it should be. We're scoring goals for fun and have the ability to go toe to toe with the big clubs playing attractive football, something I never thought I'd see with our team.

It is concerning that RM should have started sorting the defensive side before now, that fact alone worries me the most as to wether he is capable of doing it long term.

If he is in charge next season I will support him but no matter how much any of us want him to succeed next season will be make or break for him if the board decides to stick with him.
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This is the thing mate.

Supposing he got sacked if we lose vs Chelsea. Switching managers now to a caretaker manager may well make up the minds of Lukaku and Stones that they are leaving - irregardless of who the permanent manager ends up being.

I think RM - and this is basing it on Saturday when all he needed to do was show he had learned the basic principles that have cost us all season in similar situations - has shown that he just isn't capable of the defensive side.

He has until the end of the season for me but if he doesn't get top 7/8 (and that's only if we turn around our home form) or the FA Cup, then I think the time may be right to part company.

Again though, it's not up to us. Fgs I've just seen a bloke on twitter posting a Change.org petition to get him out of the club. Y'know, because that's the type of thing discussed in parliament...
 

BlueToff said:
This is the thing mate.

Supposing he got sacked if we lose vs Chelsea. Switching managers now to a caretaker manager may well make up the minds of Lukaku and Stones that they are leaving - irregardless of who the permanent manager ends up being.

I think RM - and this is basing it on Saturday when all he needed to do was show he had learned the basic principles that have cost us all season in similar situations - has shown that he just isn't capable of the defensive side.

He has until the end of the season for me but if he doesn't get top 7/8 (and that's only if we turn around our home form) or the FA Cup, then I think the time may be right to part company.

Again though, it's not up to us. Fgs I've just seen a bloke on twitter posting a Change.org petition to get him out of the club. Y'know, because that's the type of thing discussed in parliament...
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I agree with you, although I won't judge him on what happens in the cup as I think you need a bit of luck when you get to QF's onwards as games often hinge on a dodgy call during the match etc. I'll just be watching how we play as a team and how he manages each game in terms of tactics, subs.

Despite RM's failings, and I do think he has a fair few, I still think we have been really unlucky so many times this season and the players individually, regardless of tactics have been shocking individually at defending. I just don't know what to make of it all any more. A part of me will be sad to see him go, if he does go, as the style of football has been great going forwards and you can see the improvements, technically in the younger players.
 
BlueToff said:
This is the thing mate.

Supposing he got sacked if we lose vs Chelsea. Switching managers now to a caretaker manager may well make up the minds of Lukaku and Stones that they are leaving - irregardless of who the permanent manager ends up being.
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Fuming.

That aside I agree that creating instability in the management role might make a talent exodus more likely. What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall when the players talk about Martinez. However, in the last days of the Second Mourinho Era this season it was widely observed that the Chelsea players just fully didn't give a single crap about exerting themselves for Mou. The players here have clearly bought in to Bob's philosophy (although that's part of the problem) and are exerting themselves, which would indicate that, for the most part, the players are at least content with playing for Bob.
 

Remember a couple of weeks ago we were told that we were only 6 points off 5th and anyone who criticised the boss was a bed wetting kneekerker?. We're now 11 points off fifth. Progress? Nahhhhhhhh.........
 
balggy said:
So if we don't beat Arsenal it's 4 wins in 12 months.

In all honesty, we don't need stats to see how bad things are, most of us have eyes.
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He has to win all 4 if he's going to equal Moyes worst season. Last season he only had 7 which was the worst since Smith.
 

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