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Roberto Martinez discussion

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Lanolin said:
Just playing devils advocate here, but I would say that Barkley, Stones, Deulofeu, Lukaku and Besic would have progressed whoever was the manager. They are extremely talented players who were always highly thought of and are now 22/23 rather than teenagers, so their progression is natural. I would argue that Deulofeu's progress has actually been a little slower than you would hope, particularly in terms of decision making and fitness.

I would also say McCarthy and Coleman are no better than they were 3 years ago. Coleman was already first choice right back despite what some revisionists will tell you, and i vividly remember having the conversation with mates at the time where we all felt we would rather Baines left for United than Coleman.

Lennon has definitely improved, to a player i never thought he would be. Mori has got better but again that may just be down to getting used to the league, same with Robles and Oviedo.

It's a shame that he hasn't got more out of Gibson, McGeady, Mirallas etc, and despite his good work with young players we've bought I do think it's a slight worry that not a single player has been promoted from our youth set up in 3 seasons.
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Most of those players he brought to the club himself such as lukaku,deulofeu and also Besic. The Stones (who he wanted at wigan) and barkley development....well moyes didnt do much for them and who knows if Mourinho for example would play them either.

He plays young players...look at galloway, garbutt as well. He also signs young players when he had money to spend.

As for mot bringing players through ??? Well he has done so with quite a few of them hasnt he? Not sure who else he could have promoted?
 

Zatara said:
Most of those players he brought to the club himself such as lukaku,deulofeu and also Besic. The Stones (who he wanted at wigan) and barkley development....well moyes didnt do much for them and who knows if Mourinho for example would play them either.

He plays young players...look at galloway, garbutt as well. He also signs young players when he had money to spend.

As for mot bringing players through ??? Well he has done so with quite a few of them hasnt he? Not sure who else he could have promoted?
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....?

Mate are you talking about our manager here or our chief scout?
 
Stanley Parker said:
We are so predictable that we have scored 51 goals - so far - this season.
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And only won FOUR miserable home matches all season. Goals are irrelevant if we don't win the match. It's not that complicated. It's predictable we'll score goals and it's predictable that they'll mean nothing because we're incapable of defending
 
Zatara said:
Most of those players he brought to the club himself such as lukaku,deulofeu and also Besic. The Stones (who he wanted at wigan) and barkley development....well moyes didnt do much for them and who knows if Mourinho for example would play them either.

He plays young players...look at galloway, garbutt as well. He also signs young players when he had money to spend.

As for mot bringing players through ??? Well he has done so with quite a few of them hasnt he? Not sure who else he could have promoted?
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Ross was 19 when Moyes was in charge in his last season so it was not a surprise he rarely played at the time. Stones and Barkley would have played by now if Moyes is still here.
 

AaronTheBlue said:
most wigan fans i've spoke to would swap FA cup win in a day to be still be in premier league.
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Wigan fans are happy to be remembered as cup winners rather than for finishing fourth from the bottom of the Premier League.

Dave Whelan was reducing his spending on Wigan, so relegation was inevitable at some point. Roberto just postponed it by a season or two.

Most Wigan fans are enjoying life at the top of League 1 more than at the bottom of the Premier League.
 
Stanley Parker said:
Wigan fans are happy to be remembered as cup winners rather than for finishing fourth from the bottom of the Premier League.

Dave Whelan was reducing his spending on Wigan, so relegation was inevitable at some point. Roberto just postponed it by a season or two.

Most Wigan fans are enjoying life at the top of League 1 more than at the bottom of the Premier League.
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I don't think you're correct mate.
 

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