Would put my house on it mate!
Still hard to ignore the points bluestevon makes though, and I'm a big Martinez fan.
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Would put my house on it mate!
Still hard to ignore the points bluestevon makes though, and I'm a big Martinez fan.
The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
I don't get all this the penalty was a turning point, we were still 2-0 up and bossed the game up to the penalty, why do any of the players heads go down or it affects them, they are still 2-0 up.
Just shut up shop, see the game out, bring on an extra midfielder, Pulis was 1-0 up playing against 10 men Man U and he brought a forward off to pack the midfield with another body in there.
I've never seen Martinez in 3 season shut up shop, protect what he's got, and by god we've lost enough commanding positions in games for him to learn it's got to be done sometimes, attack, attack, attack does not work, you need a balance.
Just shut up shop, see the game out, bring on an extra midfielder, Pulis was 1-0 up playing against 10 men Man U and he brought a forward off to pack the midfield with another body in there.
I've never seen Martinez in 3 season shut up shop, protect what he's got, and by god we've lost enough commanding positions in games for him to learn it's got to be done sometimes, attack, attack, attack does not work, you need a balance.
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
45 pts...In little under three seasons. Which could easily accumulate by then, too, given our benevolently schizophrenic nature
Averages out at 15pts per season if it stays the same. A lower-ranking club's entire season's tally that we've managed to fritter away.
And he still hasn't learnt from it, nor done anything to address it.
There must some sort of mental deficiency imo.
And yet when he does make a decensive sub (Barry for Rom) we still concede with both DM's losing track of Payet.
Barry and Besic are getting off quite easy IMO.
I'm no psychologist mate but you can't deny that missing penalties in a match affects how you perceive the rest of the match. I get that we were 2-0 up and so it shouldn't be an excuse but I don't think you can deny that it knocks the players' confidence a bit.
The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
Defensive sub at 2-2, too late, another bad sub, go negative at 2-0 not 2-2.
The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
I am denying it, we've bossed the game and are 2-0 up, missing a Pen should not mean draw or defeat at 2-0 up FFS.
We were down to 10 men, so it would have made more sense to park the bus at 2-0.
Are our players robots? It's natural that they react negatively and get distracted by a missed penalty, it is human nature. The same feelings of frustration and disappointment we all felt as fans they will be feeling as players on the pitch because they want us to win as well.
chazzle_dazzle
Player Valuation: £35m
Dents Lukaku's confidence i can probably accept, however everyone knew from the moment we missed that West Ham would get a boost and put pressure on us, that was the moment to change the game and shut up shop.
Martinez didn't, we lost.
I don't normally read the Metro - but i seen the below article on newsnow about how Martinez should get the sack and read this...
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‘You don’t win games by changing the style. You win games by being very, very good at what you do and changing only brings doubts.’
That was Roberto Martinez back in December 2014, with his Everton side in the midst of a slump in form that had seen them lose three games in a row over Christmas. It would later become four after a miserable 2-0 loss at Hull on New Year’s Day.
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Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/09/rober...him-closer-to-the-sack-5742208/#ixzz42Q5TBtqY
He isn't changing his style, his removal of Lennon for Niasse while the wrong sub was an almost stamp of his feet that his style is one he removes to change from.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Well, we can all play the 'last seven seasons' for this and 'last three seasons' for that game and make a point of sorts. Fundamentally we are a middling PL club - nowhere near the elite, but nowhere near relegation fodder. Right slap bang in the middle on a sliding scal that goes from 6th or 7th to 10th/11th.
We have a reasonable but average type of spend and we tread water for the most part. I mean, if that isn't true, why is there excitement about the Moshiri deal taking us to the next level?
You see, this is why I cant take these attacks on Martinez seriously. Even a season that saw him smash through our PL points total record by 7 clear points you find room to attempt to belittle it. It's just nonsensical as an argument to try and unpick that season and say it fell short - Martinez squeezed that season dry and got a total that in many other seasons was a CL spot nailed on.
Maybe you wont see it as an achievement, but more level heads unaffected by forum fever will.
More style than substance. The feller's built a PL club from ashes and put the most prestigious domestic cup in world football in a trophy cabinet belonging to a gang of pie eaters. Maybe that's not substantial enough and we should have one of the new flavours in who had half a good PL season or managed a team in the white heat of the Eridivise or Ligue 1.
To be fair Rom upped his game even more after the penno.
One run in particular he brushed defenders off the ball as if they were flies and it took a tasty save from Adrian to stop him scoring.
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Tbf mate, I do think RM tried to shut up shop. It's just that Niasse for Lennon was his way of doing it, which is mental.
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Tbf mate, I do think RM tried to shut up shop. It's just that Niasse for Lennon was his way of doing it, which is mental.
The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
When we missed the Pen we as fans didn't think oh that's it now, we are going to lose, 2-0 up in command all game West Ham had created nothing up to then.
The Pen was a bonus, icing on the cake if scored, missing it should not have mattered, it's crazy to think otherwise.
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