Roberto Martinez discussion

[USABlue]

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/why-we-call-soccer-soccer/372771/

 

[sageyefc]

Surely he must though?..

A man whom set his own targets of champions league when he walked in the club....

How can he be anything but disappointed with what he's seen this season. All kinds of excuses can be made but simply we have been poor in every department and for me that starts with the manager.

Hes the first one to admit its been a disappointing season. But the end of season form has been a positive so hopefully it carries on into next season

 

[Titus Bramble]

I'm too busy in the RAWK witch hunt thread to post everywhere. Soz abar tha.

Feel free to stay there.

 

[Woolly Blue]

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/why-we-call-soccer-soccer/372771/

In the 1980s, however, Brits began rejecting the term, as soccer became a more popular sport in the United States.

Fair amount of bollocks in that article mate. I was playing football in the 60's, we never called it soccer. In short, don't believe everything you read on t'internet.

 

[USABlue]

Fair amount of bollocks in that article mate. I was playing football in the 60's, we never called it soccer. In short, don't believe everything you read on t'internet.

oh i defo take it with a grain of salt but moral of the story is that us americans didn't just make it up is all

 

[Allezfan]

oh i defo take it with a grain of salt but moral of the story is that us americans didn't just make it up is all

No americanisms were made up by yanks, or hardly any of them anyway.

They're mostly things that fell out of fashion over here but lingered on stateside.

You're basically just like Wigan. About 60 years behind civilisation.

 

[USABlue]

No americanisms were made up by yanks, are hardly any of them anyway.

They're mostly things that fell out of fashion over here but lingered on stateside.

You're basically just like Wigan. About 60 years behind civilisation.

behind civilization? we have nachos on a stick ffs

 

[BoysInBlue]

Fair amount of bollocks in that article mate. I was playing football in the 60's, we never called it soccer. In short, don't believe everything you read on t'internet.

I think its a cultural thing. The word soccer has never really bothered me, but it's not a new thing. It was used in the 1960s and 1970s in this country, albeit not everywhere. There's plenty of evidence to suggest it was used though.

 

[bizzaro]

Feel free to stay there.

Ripping Kopites and Aldo is such fun.

 

[Woolly Blue]

oh i defo take it with a grain of salt but moral of the story is that us americans didn't just make it up is all

One for another thread really but ...

Counting words in the press in the early 1900's has very little bearing on the reality of the time. Quoting the fact that Oxford and Cambridge students were responsible also shows a weakness in the argument. Rugby was then,and the Union code still is, a "posher" sport so they'd have wanted to divorce themselves from the common people.

If the bit about the war is right then it just reinforces the fact that Americans needed to differentiate between American Football and proper football, so picked up on a little used way to talking about footie ( ie soccer ) and embraced it into your version of the English language. So, yes, the origin is from these fair isles, but it was little used here

TL;DR ?

We're right, and you're weird.

 

[Allezfan]

One for another thread really but ...

Counting words in the press in the early 1900's has very little bearing on the reality of the time. Quoting the fact that Oxford and Cambridge students were responsible also shows a weakness in the argument. Rugby was then,and the Union code still is, a "posher" sport so they'd have wanted to divorce themselves from the common people.

If the bit about the war is right then it just reinforces the fact that Americans needed to differentiate between American Football and proper football, so picked up on a little used way to talking about footie ( ie soccer ) and embraced it into your version of the English language. So, yes, the origin is from these fair isles, but it was little used here

TL;DR ?

We're right, and you're weird.

I've been recently reading the autobiography of the football league secretary from the 1940s (I know, I know I'm a thrill a minute) and soccer is used by his publisher to advertise it on the cover but he himself being from hull uses football exclusively.

Kind of backs up that soccer was a middle class term.

 

[blue61]

 

[Woolly Blue]

I've been recently reading the autobiography of the football league secretary from the 1940s (I know, I know I'm a thrill a minute) and soccer is used by his publisher to advertise it on the cover but he himself being from hull uses football exclusively.

Kind of backs up that soccer was a middle class term.

No one ever called it soccer when I was a kid, or since for that matter

@BoysInBlue's right, stuff was published as "Soccer", but as your dull reading habits show, it was the publishers who wanted to try and get the term into common use, so yea, it's a class thing.

Anyway, to get back onto topic. If Martinez ever starts calling our beautiful club a soccer club I shall be leading a delegation to the board to get rid of the clown at the earliest possible opportunity.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Negged for inappropriate use of soccer.

 

[USABlue]

does the game teach you how to lose in PKs?