Roberto Martinez discussion

[marty mcfly]

Hold on. The owners didn't want to sell Stones. We know that because they said so.

So why hasn't Martinez spent more than £4.5M? If he's being given cash and he's identified three positions needed to be filled, he'd spend it wouldn't he?

Not if he thought we would get Yarmolenko.

Martinez also said he wanted to keep Stones so that point doesn't make sense.

 

[Elong]

Two holding midfielders and you're still worried about defense?

I know you're clueless about football, but holding midfielders don't play on the touchline. Go and draw up a formation on another forum would ya?

 

[marty mcfly]

May I enquire who he could have sold?

McCarthy, Mirallas etc

That's what other clubs do.

 

[marty mcfly]

I know you're clueless about football, but holding midfielders don't play on the touchline. Go and draw up a formation on another forum would ya?

Except with the way we play that's exactly what the do.

 

[Furey1878]

McCarthy or Mirallas

McCarthy is considered a key player who is pretty much guaranteed to start every game.

Mirallas has an excellent goal return in his time here, also if he were to be sold to raise funds for a playmaker, then we'd still need another winger after that.

 

[Elong]

Except with the way we play that's exactly what the do.

I have no idea why I'm quoting you or talking to you.

Apologies mods.

 

[Deco]

He sure did.

What happened with that? From memory we spent the cash?

 

[davek]

Not if he thought we would get Yarmolenko.

Martinez also said he wanted to keep Stones so that point doesn't make sense.

So we're supposed to believe this manager of ours - desperate for players (because, as he says, this will be the squad he'll have for the next 10 months) - hasn't spent cash because he wont accept that the Kiev owner is serious about keeping his player and therefore he'll continue to put all his eggs in that basket and it's his fault therefore if we dont bring other players in?

That's the script to an episode of Twin Peaks mate. Utterly baffling and nonsensical.

 

[Titus Bramble]

Well the budget doesn't make it easy but he could have sold if that was the issue. I'm not 100% sure it was. I think he gambled all or nothing on yarmolenko.

We won't know until Tuesday. So until then stop chatting bobbins.

 

[marty mcfly]

McCarthy is considered a key player who is pretty much guaranteed to start every game.

Mirallas has an excellent goal return in his time here, also if he were to be sold to raise funds for a playmaker, then we'd still need another winger after that.

If we bought a No10 I would play Barkley there or Cleverly if I wanted to be a bit more defensive.

McCarthy is definitely one of our best players but he can be replaced in the squad. A playmaker is more important.

Same with Mirallas neither is more important than a playmaker.

 

[toffeestillidie]

Think things will settle down a bit once the window closes. Not a great performance yesterday, and we are really struggling to create without Baines (first half, nearly everything came through the right side and Coleman is at this best when he has space to burst into), but I don't think it's necessarily a negative sign for the season.

 

[Goat]

What happened with that? From memory we spent the cash?

I think, cba checking proper facts, but it was something like Lescott 24m, Bily 9.5m, Johnny 5m? Distin 5.5m? Moyes wanted "his" 4m and Suntan said it was all gone, the "rest" spent on agent fees and signing on fees.

 

[marty mcfly]

So we're supposed to believe this manager of ours - desperate for players (because, as he says, this will be the squad he'll have for the next 10 months) - hasn't spent cash because he wont accept that the Kiev owner is serious about keeping his player and therefore he'll continue to put all his eggs in that basket and it's his fault therefore if we dont bring other players in?

That's the script to an episode of Twin Peaks mate. Utterly baffling and nonsensical.

So why hasn't he brought one in?

If it's a question of money he could have sold so if the player is that important which I agree that he is he would have sold someone which is why I believe the money is available and the fact we actually did bid for Yarmolenko backs that up.

 

[davek]

So why hasn't he brought one in?

If it's a question of money he could have sold so if the player is that important which I agree that he is he would have sold someone which is why I believe the money is available and the fact we actually did bid for Yarmolenko backs that up.

That's entirely the point: there is no cash if he chooses not to sell...that's what 'not needing to sell' means at Kenwright's Everton. It means you can keep quality players, but just dont expect to sign any more if you do.

In other words - unless he wants to see one quality player out and another one in to stand still - his hands are tied.

 

[marty mcfly]

That's entirely the point: there is no cash if he chooses not to sell...that's what 'not needing to sell' means at Kenwright's Everton. It means you can keep quality players, but just dont expect to sign any more if you do.

In other words - unless he wants to see one quality player out and another one in to stand still - his hands are tied.

i don't think that means his hands are tied just he didn't want to make a hard decision but if you prefer to blame the board then fair enough. They certainly don't make his job any easier.