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Roberto Martinez documentary
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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Taking away the derby elelemnt - that's not in the same class as the Moyes losses
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I like him, his positivity can be overbearing at times.
It's not like he "must" win something at Belgium to be considered a success, they are not Brazil or even England for that matter.
I would be surprised if they came near winning Euro 2020 with aging players and those like Denayer and Boyata in the side, they have peaked.
If he demonstrates he can evolve and learn from past mistakes, there is a decent club job in a decent league waiting for him somewhere.
I hope he does well. He represented us with dignity and respect.
After all, he gave us the best season we've had since 1995. Just a shame things went south in the manner they did.
It's not like he "must" win something at Belgium to be considered a success, they are not Brazil or even England for that matter.
I would be surprised if they came near winning Euro 2020 with aging players and those like Denayer and Boyata in the side, they have peaked.
If he demonstrates he can evolve and learn from past mistakes, there is a decent club job in a decent league waiting for him somewhere.
I hope he does well. He represented us with dignity and respect.
After all, he gave us the best season we've had since 1995. Just a shame things went south in the manner they did.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
You can’t take out the derby element, it matters. They were far more humiliating than the Arsenal defeats.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
Not at least playing in a final with this Belgium team would be a failure. You're right they aren't England, they're better.
If he won The Euros I wouldnt even be impressed, I reckon you or Zat could win The Euros with this Belgium team.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
He would have been 5 down in that game by half time if Aguero had put his boots on that morning. Managerial brilliance didn’t win that cup. He lucked out in the final, 99/100 Wigan get punted all over the shop in that game.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
While I agree with the sentiment unfortunately you do have to give the manager some credit. I wouldn't hire him to manage a club still.
Say what you want about his final season here, but 4 losses in 59 games in charge of Belgium is pretty impressive - don't care how good their team is that's a decent record.
I actually don't think i'd be against him coming back either, but I don't know if that's because I've watched Eddie Howe, David Moyes, Espirito Santo and FSW all be heavily linked to the vacant job in the past weeks.
I actually don't think i'd be against him coming back either, but I don't know if that's because I've watched Eddie Howe, David Moyes, Espirito Santo and FSW all be heavily linked to the vacant job in the past weeks.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
LOL
Yeah maybe not, he would be resting Lukaku for a 12 year old.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £25m
Goes to look at the results in every season to try and make an argument by picking out individual wins. I looked at one result of Ferguson's and decided he is a terrible manager.
The truth of the matter is that Martinez is not a bad coach but he is a terrible pupil. He never learned from his mistakes and that is why we had 2 awful seasons after the good one. It is not hard to see that we were solid at the back in his first year because of the players still being in the Moyes mindset.
Martinez basically did what Wenger did at Arsenal, was not prepared to mess with a very strong element of the team but focus on improving the attacking areas, the big difference being Wenger during those earlier years learnt how to continue that strong defence rather than change it all after one season.
The truth of the matter is that Martinez is not a bad coach but he is a terrible pupil. He never learned from his mistakes and that is why we had 2 awful seasons after the good one. It is not hard to see that we were solid at the back in his first year because of the players still being in the Moyes mindset.
Martinez basically did what Wenger did at Arsenal, was not prepared to mess with a very strong element of the team but focus on improving the attacking areas, the big difference being Wenger during those earlier years learnt how to continue that strong defence rather than change it all after one season.
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £40m
The Catalan Kojak - The Roberto Martinez Story
Alanbileysfeathercut
Player Valuation: £80m
He bought ex wigan players to help us play to feet...that went well Dave.
He had a good season with us,without doubt, one season.
On the back of a well drilled Moyes defence.
Once that was forgotten it was tatties....
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