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Roberto Martinez Shenanigans: All Reaction Here

How do you feel about the Roberto Martinez hiring?

  • Great hire. He'll do better than Moyes.

    Votes: 65 18.4%

  • Good hire. There were better available.

    Votes: 116 32.9%

  • Meh

    Votes: 59 16.7%

  • Wasn't the worst. Wasn't the best.

    Votes: 96 27.2%

  • We're getting relegated.

    Votes: 17 4.8%
  • Total voters
    353
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we could have two sexy mother****ers
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maddison said:
You do realised he absolutely struggled against lower league teams, often having to go to replay. As for battering us and out classing us, that game went down as one of our worst performances of the season. We simply took it for granted and the players thought all they had to do was walk on the field. We almost limped through it as well.

The main argument for Martinez is his Swansea days, which I can live with. He did well there, but everything else is a total stretch.

I'm resigned to it being Martinez, and I'll get behind him. I think someone has been smoking the same stuff Dave Whealans been smoking......:dodgy:

The main problem I have with Martinez is his defensive record, regardless of this season where he lost a few defenders due to injury, he's had the same problem all of the way through the prem. You can't get a top 6 finish by simply slotting lots of goals away, as great as that is in fantasy land it doesn't work in the real world. You can argue he'd have better defenders here, but you can also argue there have been some shocking managers in the prem who've had better defensive records than Martinez with equal, if not players who were worse, than what Martinez has had.
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Pretty much exactly what my reply would have been.
 
maddison said:
You do realised he absolutely struggled against lower league teams, often having to go to replay. As for battering us and out classing us, that game went down as one of our worst performances of the season. We simply took it for granted and the players thought all they had to do was walk on the field. We almost limped through it as well.

The main argument for Martinez is his Swansea days, which I can live with. He did well there, but everything else is a total stretch.

I'm resigned to it being Martinez, and I'll get behind him. I think someone has been smoking the same stuff Dave Whealans been smoking......:dodgy:

The main problem I have with Martinez is his defensive record, regardless of this season where he lost a few defenders due to injury, he's had the same problem all of the way through the prem. You can't get a top 6 finish by simply slotting lots of goals away, as great as that is in fantasy land it doesn't work in the real world. You can argue he'd have better defenders here, but you can also argue there have been some shocking managers in the prem who've had better defensive records than Martinez with equal, if not players who were worse, than what Martinez has had.
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But it looks almost inevitable that we'll have a defender as our number 2, which is the best possible scenario for Martinez coming in. It should, in theory, allow our back line to maintain its solidity whilst Martinez improves our attacking which has been lacking, we've never scored enough goals.

Martinez with Neville or Weir as his number two would be spot on.
 

toffeejack said:
we currently have the 6th best team in the league so he should have no excuses for not achieving that, like AF his big game mentality in this years FA Cup really stood out for me. They took the game to us and battered us in the 5 mins we were on he ropes. we never really do that, we score 1 and won't score another for a good half an hour normally. we beat the majority of the teams in this league because we're the better team, any manager worth their salt should be able to get that from us; therefore we needed a manager who could win the really really big ones that will make a difference in a season.

like you said, we'll see. Just turning up actually trying to win the really big games will be step up for me
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Spot on, I wanted him to leave after the semi last year when he proved to me that he would never win a thing at Everton. We had given that game back to them long before Distins mistake. I would love to know whatever got said that day at halftime because they hadn't turned up first half and we came back out and **** ourselves. That was the end of Mr Moyes for me
 
CahillsCornerFlag said:
But it looks almost inevitable that we'll have a defender as our number 2, which is the best possible scenario for Martinez coming in. It should, in theory, allow our back line to maintain its solidity whilst Martinez improves our attacking which has been lacking, we've never scored enough goals.

Martinez with Neville or Weir as his number two would be spot on.
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Where does the idea that Martinez is some kind of attacking football guru come from?

His teams are always amongst the lowest scorers even when compared to teams with similar budgets.
 

353 formation at Wigan shows he an attacking manager and also not scared to lose games where Moyes did. Oh come on guys how many times did Moyes go cautious in the games we needed to win.
 
Jags..class said:
353 formation at Wigan shows he an attacking manager and also not scared to lose games where Moyes did. Oh come on guys how many times did Moyes go cautious in the games we needed to win.
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True, not playing a keeper would be pretty adventurous and would explain why they let in so many.
 
Jags..class said:
353 formation at Wigan shows he an attacking manager and also not scared to lose games where Moyes did. Oh come on guys how many times did Moyes go cautious in the games we needed to win.
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He might not be scared to lose games - but is that a good thing?

I'd rather have a manager who was scared to lose and therefore did everything he could to prevent that from happening.
 

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