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Roberto Martinez Shenanigans: All Reaction Here

How do you feel about the Roberto Martinez hiring?

  • Great hire. He'll do better than Moyes.

    Votes: 65 18.4%

  • Good hire. There were better available.

    Votes: 116 32.9%

  • Meh

    Votes: 59 16.7%

  • Wasn't the worst. Wasn't the best.

    Votes: 96 27.2%

  • We're getting relegated.

    Votes: 17 4.8%
  • Total voters
    353
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pipling said:
You have to hope and expect that at 39 year old manager has scope to improve, especially one as reputedly obsessed with his job as Martinez. Moyes improved year on year, developing the attacking style from a defensive base. Martinez can surely do the reverse.

I feel like the clamour for Pereira and Rangnick also is more based on the idea of them than the reality. People 95% of Evertonians hadn't heard of 2 months ago were suddenly overwhelming favourites amongst the majority, based on very little information.

I'm delighted personally, in an ideal world he might right some of the core wrongs at the heart of the Moyes team regarding flair and adventure at key moments, whilst keeping the core of solidity. Or he might spectacularly fail. Either way it's going to be new and exciting.
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i for one can't wait to get martinez on the back of my everton shirt
 
So Martinez is on a rolling contract and Whelan took the option. If he's so loyal and so valued why wasn't he pinned down to a long term deal? Maybe DW's getting a good deal with £2m compo to be free of a manager who took them down and admitted he didn't have the stomach to try and take them back up again. If we hadn't come in for him they'd have terminated his contract by mutual consent and he'd have been a free agent or else Whelan would have had to sack him and pay up the final 12 months of his contract.

We could use the Wigan chairman's big mouth as a reason to pull out of the deal, expect that they'll go their own ways anyway and save ourselves a couple of million quid. Is it worth the risk and the negative publicity though? Especially if we're likely to have to deal with them again to take one or two of their players.
 
from the express ..
"A final round of talks with Kenwright will now include which members of his backroom staff Martinez wants to bring with him from Wigan – with assistant Graeme Jones, goalkeeping coach Inaki Bergara, chief scout Kevin Reeves and fitness coach Richard Evans all having been tipped to make the move."

if true , as i feared , thats one low grade backroom staff.
 
uknightbreed said:
from the express ..
"A final round of talks with Kenwright will now include which members of his backroom staff Martinez wants to bring with him from Wigan – with assistant Graeme Jones, goalkeeping coach Inaki Bergara, chief scout Kevin Reeves and fitness coach Richard Evans all having been tipped to make the move."

if true , as i feared , thats one low grade backroom staff.
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BUT WUR GONNA WIN THE FA CUP AN PLAY FUTBALL LIKE BARCELONA LAD
 

Joey66 said:
And BK is not - short memories here KD -The fortress fund - the park end development not & the biggest cock up the Kings dock stadia! This is another drama dragged out by BK what ever happens!
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well said mate well in Whelan show that Redcoat prick what for
 
uknightbreed said:
from the express ..
"A final round of talks with Kenwright will now include which members of his backroom staff Martinez wants to bring with him from Wigan – with assistant Graeme Jones, goalkeeping coach Inaki Bergara, chief scout Kevin Reeves and fitness coach Richard Evans all having been tipped to make the move."

if true , as i feared , thats one low grade backroom staff.
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do you know them all well?
 
billycopper said:
So Martinez is on a rolling contract and Whelan took the option. If he's so loyal and so valued why wasn't he pinned down to a long term deal? Maybe DW's getting a good deal with £2m compo to be free of a manager who took them down and admitted he didn't have the stomach to try and take them back up again. If we hadn't come in for him they'd have terminated his contract by mutual consent and he'd have been a free agent or else Whelan would have had to sack him and pay up the final 12 months of his contract.

We could use the Wigan chairman's big mouth as a reason to pull out of the deal, expect that they'll go their own ways anyway and save ourselves a couple of million quid. Is it worth the risk and the negative publicity though? Especially if we're likely to have to deal with them again to take one or two of their players.
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The rolling contract started when Martinez turned down Villa I believe. Said he would stay for now but see how things go rather htan moving, hence hte no long-term contract.
 

andy4efc said:
The rolling contract started when Martinez turned down Villa I believe. Said he would stay for now but see how things go rather htan moving, hence hte no long-term contract.
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Martinez probably said to Whelan 'I'll give you one more year out of loyalty'. Seeing how things panned out I wonder whether they now think that was a good idea or not.
 
uknightbreed said:
nobody does , there all such nobodys. which is my point.
graeme jones i know a bit about , lower league player mainly in his day.
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so you don't know if they are good coaches or not? your looking for problems, they might be a 'high-grade back room team'.
 
uknightbreed said:
nobody does , there all such nobodys. which is my point.
graeme jones i know a bit about , lower league player mainly in his day.
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That household name Jimmy Lumsden and the sought-after tactical mind of Steve Round were obviously in a much higher class when they first came to Everton. Ex-Preston and Ex-Middlesbrough.

Joking aside, the reality is that Graeme Jones is actually highly sought after as a coach - Swansea interviewed him for their managers job last summer and wanted him first - before Michael Laudrup - before talks broke down and Jones decided to stay at Wigan.

So I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss people just because of their lower profile and perceived 'value'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2153988/Graeme-Jones-talks-Swansea-break-down.html
 
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