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Roberto Martinez Shenanigans: All Reaction Here

How do you feel about the Roberto Martinez hiring?

  • Great hire. He'll do better than Moyes.

    Votes: 65 18.4%
  • Good hire. There were better available.

    Votes: 116 32.9%
  • Meh

    Votes: 59 16.7%
  • Wasn't the worst. Wasn't the best.

    Votes: 96 27.2%
  • We're getting relegated.

    Votes: 17 4.8%

  • Total voters
    353
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As others have said, as far as transfer errors goes, Boselli wasn't any more of a horrorshow than Kroldrup or Bilyaletdinov (or Bebe, Kleberson, Jordi Cruyff, Poborski, Veron, Djemba Djemba etc.). He's done well in various types of transfer:

Big money risk: N'Zogbia - fairly big money for Wigan. Got him playing the best football of his career and sold him for profit.

Foreign import: Kone - bit of a hit-miss journeyman but was consistently impressive last season.

Lower league potential:
Moses - moved quickly while others dithered and got a very good player who was sold for ~8m profit.

SCOTLAND: Maloney - had one indifferent season at Villa and returned to Celtic, yet an absolute snip at under £1,000,000 as Martinez knows how and where to play him effectively.

The 'can do a job' signing: the likes of Alcaraz and Figueroa certainly haven't been bad buys for Wigan, although we'd obviously hope for players of a higher standard. Ramis looked okay before he got injured, too, and while some people are unconvinced, McCarthy has looked very good at times.

Different budget and different needs means he'll be tested if he comes here, but his history (some very good buys for Swansea, too) suggests he's capable of doing well with what he has.

The concern over his tactics is justified: Wigan were not just beaten but absolutely hammered far too often. I'm hoping he retains key coaching staff and doesn't attempt a radical and immediate shift in playing style, as what we currently have is, when it works, a solid system of decent football and organisation. If he can maintain the structure and add a little more intelligence and variety to our attacking play we might be very happy. If he attempts to 'implement' his 'philosophy' from the off it means an inevitable transitional period that might yield some unwanted results.

Ultimately I'm somewhere between satisfied and happy. He's an intelligent coach with real ambition. He rejected Villa because he smartly saw a club on the wane. He rejected Liverpool because he wants to be more than a 'head coach'. If he comes we've shown that we're no 'small time' club who'll plump for a Hughes or O'Neill, but also not one that is willing to take the massive risk of appointing someone with no PL experience. When we consider our finances and our current stature, it's a sensible decision. Not thrilling, but with the faintest glimmer of promise.
 
How many times did Everton conceded more than 4 goals in 11 years?

Wigan tend to be beaten by Man Utd 4-0, 5-0.

And look at the budget and at the defence. We know Moyes is good at the defence and Martinez perhaps is not. Just like Martinez is good when it comes to attacking and Moyes is not.

You can't just use some previous results for wigan against Martinez. Everton lost 3-0 against them and Moyes didn't have a clue how to change it. We have lost to lower league teams in the past, Blackburn at home 4-1 in the past. Have we won away at the top 4 clubs? No we havn't - Wigan have. Does that make Martinez better than Moyes - of course not, it just means they are different style managers, each with strengths and weaknesses
 
Thrashings under Moyes- 6-2 newcastle, 5-2 spurs, 7-0 arsenal, 5-1 bucharest, 4-0 west brom, 4-0 bolton, 4-1 blackburn, 4-1 west brom, 6-1 arsenal. Probably more. Pereira was my first pick, but mostly down to being swayed by popular opinion! Right behind Martinez now though, and tbh, think his style of football may work with better quality players. Let's be fair, he's never been given that opportunity so far.
 
I don't have any expectations regarding league position, but I do have expectations as to our approach to each game and that we should be playing a more attacking brand of football - going for the win.

I also expect 3-4 players leaving (not counting Neville, Mucha and Hitzelsberger), and 5-6 players arriving to bolster our numbers. 1-2 of them will come from Wigan, with the most obvious targets being McCarthy, McManaman, Maloney and Kone.

Most importantly we need to give the manager time to implement his ideas and not view the league position as the only way of judging progress.

As along as Gary Caldwell and that Alceraz nob don't get signed, it'll be golden.

He can look at other, better players now.
 

I may be wrong but I seem to remember us conceding 4 goals three games in a row...
I'm not happy about Martinez but there really is nothing I can do about it. I hope he is able to build on the great platform that Moyes has left behind. I also hope as angry as some of us are, we show Martinez exactly why we are the best fans in the league.
 
We've took some pastings under Moyes with better squads.

Getting smashed at home by Arsenal 6-1, a few years earlier 7-0 at their place.

4-0 defeat at home to Bolton Wanderers, 4-1 defeat to West Brom at home, to name a few.

Want the 7-0 at Arse after the players were on the sauce after getting top 4? Not that I give a s*** right now though.

Give the lad time, and a chance. Might be ace, might not. Same as every season.
 
Everyone gets a few thrashings now and again:

Man utd lost 6-1 at home to city
Arsenal lost 8-2 to utd
spurs lost 5-1 to city

It's not like wigan lose 6-0 every week
 
Knock out delivered - game over.

Not really mate. That 6-0 win was about 2 years ago. The current City side, that ended the season would not have beaten any United side of the last 15 years, nevermind in a semi final. There is a complete difference in professionalism.
 

Martinez must think all his christmasses have come at once.

Relegated, and gets a job with the 6th best team in the world's most prestigious league.
 
Yes but I said how many times did Everton conceded more than 4 goals in 11 years? 6,7 occasions? Wigan is known to get beaten by 3/4 goals. They probably did that on about 15, 16 occasions in 4 years time.

We wouldn't of conceded a lot because we usually had everyone behind the ball. how teams did we smash in the league.
 

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